20-30 tonight. Lockdown

[hans kraay fan club]

This. Nothing Boris said tonight will mean tomorrow will be different than yesterday for me.

If the morons among us had listened, he wouldn’t even have needed to do it.

It’s not just about morons out enjoying themselves. This kind of strong definitive INSTRUCTION is what people like me, still expected in to their offices, by slow-to-act employers, have been crying out for.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

Whereabouts?

Crawley.

 

[LamieRobertson]

So i have a genuine question here. I listened to Boris's speech and from what i understand, if you cannot work from home, you still can go to work? What if you are a plumber, builder, Electrician? gardenener? You can't do these from home so they are allowed to go to work (and follow the soclai distancing rules)?

I’m in that list Gardener/grounds maintenance.....instigated own work distancing 3 weeks ago...if i do see a customer they are told to keep well away...i just get on with the job and leave....followed all the social distancing stuff etc ..hmmm

 

[B-right-on]

It’s not just about morons out enjoying themselves. This kind of strong definitive INSTRUCTION is what people like me, still expected in to their offices, by slow-to-act employers, have been crying out for.

The BBC website says 'essential work' but Boris didnt say that. This is his speech:

0 Not allowed!

That is why people will only be allowed to leave their home for the following very limited purposes:

shopping for basic necessities, as infrequently as possible
one form of exercise a day - for example a run, walk, or cycle - alone or with members of your household;
any medical need, to provide care or to help a vulnerable person; and
travelling to and from work, but only where this is absolutely necessary and cannot be done from home.

So it can be argued that you would still need to go to work if you can't do it from home.

 

[jessiejames]

Undoubtedly not the most pressing or issues but my car is due an MOT in the next few weeks. If the test centres shut, as it sounds like they will, does that mean I’d be expected not to drive? Surely it will be ok to keep driving (on essential journeys of course) in these extraordinary circumstances.

I know that HGV drivers hours have been upped, and any lorry due it MOT and it's 6 to 8 week safety inspection have been scrapped until May due to test centres not operating so I would presume the same will be for cars.

 

[vagabond]

Sad times, but unfortunately inevitable.

We simply cannot trust joe public to do the right thing.

We’ve known about this crisis for some time, yet too many stoopid basterds just don’t get it. Maybe now they will.

 

[DarrenFreemansPerm]

Parts/repairing, or sales?

I can see an argument why vehicles need to be repaired so people can still get meds or groceries, or repairing/servicing the vehicles of those on the long list of essential services.

If sales, the employer is irresponsibly taking the p.

Main dealership, car sales and service/repairs. I’m front of house so direct contact with customers.

 

[B-right-on]

I’m in that list Gardener/grounds maintenance.....instigated own work distancing 3 weeks ago...if i do see a customer they are told to keep well away...i just get on with the job and leave....followed all the social distancing stuff etc ..hmmm

So will you carry on going to work? Really confused on it as what he said and whats being reported as what he said ARE different. I also instigated it a while ago and the nature of my work doesnt mean i get a lot of peole near me (I work on the roofs of houses).

 

[Hugo Rune]

We simply cannot trust joe public to do the right thing.

I’m not sure which Countries have tried to trust Joe Public on this other than ours, there must be some of course. Most have assumed that their people won’t comply though and have taken swift and draconian measures days or weeks ago.

On Thursday, South Africa will go into a 21 day lock down with 400 odd cases and no deaths.
They are deploying their Army to the streets.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....-to-go-into-21-day-lockdown-on-thursday-night

They are clearly not looking at Europe for best practice.

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

What about the banks?

I do 99% of my banking online but I currently have 3 cheques that need paying in - yes I know they have a shelf-life of six months so I could wait, but I've not worked yet this year and neither has Mrs SS so the current account needs the funds.
Asking the cheque drawees to resend funds by faster payments is also not viable.

I'd much prefer NOT to have to use an ATM either - no idea whose fingers have been on that in the previous 72 hours.

 

[dazzer6666]

Main dealership, car sales and service/repairs. I’m front of house so direct contact with customers.

I’m due to have a cracked windscreen replaced tomorrow, Autoglass seem to be still operating - half expecting message in the morning to say they can’t do it though.......

 

[LamieRobertson]

So will you carry on going to work? Really confused on it as what he said and whats being reported as what he said ARE different. I also instigated it a while ago and the nature of my work doesnt mean i get a lot of peole near me (I work on the roofs of houses).

I will as things stand because i dont think i am being irresponsible in the way i deal with customers ...but that could change firstly through further guidance and secondly customers telling me they don’t want me...i dont think the individuals i deal with will say that (ive known most for years)..but the Managing Agents i work for might instruct me not too.

 

[BN9 BHA]

So i have a genuine question here. I listened to Boris's speech and from what i understand, if you cannot work from home, you still can go to work? What if you are a plumber, builder, Electrician? gardenener? You can't do these from home so they are allowed to go to work (and follow the soclai distancing rules)?

I'm slightly confused with what to do.
As a plumber I get called to many urgent jobs, people staying at home will need a working toilet and water.
I definitely wouldn't go out if someone just fancied a new kitchen tap, but an OAP with a water leak in their property is something I feel I would have to go and help.

 

[dazzer6666]

What about the banks?

I do 99% of my banking online but I currently have 3 cheques that need paying in - yes I know they have a shelf-life of six months so I could wait, but I've not worked yet this year and neither has Mrs SS so the current account needs the funds.
Asking the cheque drawees to resend funds by faster payments is also not viable.

I'd much prefer NOT to have to use an ATM either - no idea whose fingers have been on that in the previous 72 hours.

Think banks will be open, but you can pay cheques in online using most banking apps if they’re not too large (think my bank’s limit is £500) ?

 

[vagabond]

I'm slightly confused with what to do.
As a plumber I get called to many urgent jobs, people staying at home will need a working toilet and water.
I definitely wouldn't go out if someone just fancied a new kitchen tap, but an OAP with a water leak in their property is something I feel I would have to go and help.

I understand. You’re in a slight gray area, but I think you are providing a valuable if not essential service (eg, the OAP example) to the community. People need water.

So I would say you are a key worker.

 

[Bodian]

The BBC website says 'essential work' but Boris didnt say that. This is his speech:



So it can be argued that you would still need to go to work if you can't do it from home.

So will you carry on going to work? Really confused on it as what he said and whats being reported as what he said ARE different. I also instigated it a while ago and the nature of my work doesnt mean i get a lot of peole near me (I work on the roofs of houses).

I'm slightly confused with what to do.
As a plumber I get called to many urgent jobs, people staying at home will need a working toilet and water.
I definitely wouldn't go out if someone just fancied a new kitchen tap, but an OAP with a water leak in their property is something I feel I would have to go and help.

I suppose this all depends on the interpretation of 'absolutely necessary'. Finishing putting on a roof you've started and is sheeted - yes, starting stripping and replacing an old roof - no. Plumbing where the boiler's packed up, toilet not working - yes, putting in a new outside tap - no. That would be my sort of interpretation. Goodness knows how they will enforce this though...

 

[BN9 BHA]

I understand. You’re in a slight gray area, but I think you are providing a valuable if not essential service (eg, the OAP example) to the community. People need water.

So I would say you are a key worker.

Thank you, yes I agree.
Many elderly people that live alone do panic even when they have a dripping tap, I would feel very guilty saying no I can't help, especially if it's a regular customer that trusts me to work in their home.

 

[worthingseagull123]

Hopefully roads will be nice and quiet to get to work.

 

[B-right-on]

I suppose this all depends on the interpretation of 'absolutely necessary'. Finishing putting on a roof you've started and is sheeted - yes, starting stripping and replacing an old roof - no. Plumbing where the boiler's packed up, toilet not working - yes, putting in a new outside tap - no. That would be my sort of interpretation. Goodness knows how they will enforce this though...

Exactly, thats the problem. One persons 'disater' is another persons 'I can live with that'.

 

[BN9 BHA]

I suppose this all depends on the interpretation of 'absolutely necessary'. Finishing putting on a roof you've started and is sheeted - yes, starting stripping and replacing an old roof - no. Plumbing where the boiler's packed up, toilet not working - yes, putting in a new outside tap - no. That would be my sort of interpretation. Goodness knows how they will enforce this though...

Personally I wouldn't go out now unless the job is essential.