1 Water cannon in the whole of the UK?

[Coleby1007]

Just heard that in the whole of the UK there is only 1 water cannon available to the police, and its in shitting Ireland.

I dont understand why the police dont do some sort of deal with B & Q for a bulk load of pressure washers. I saw at the weekend theyre half price.

See how these cnuts like to steal plasmas and I-pads when theyre having layers of skin burnt off by these babies.

They would be perfect, everyone could have one and they could wear the water packs on their backs, abit like ghostbusters only in this case cuntbusters!

 

[Ecosse Exile]

But we have plenty of fire engines, i dont know i have never got in the way of a fire hose, but that water seems to come out at a fair rate of knots, maybe we could call in the armed forces fire engines?

 

[beorhthelm]

that would be because we dont use water cannon, so dont have any. which is why suggesting we use them is rather silly.

 

[trueblue]

A point Danny Baker made in his (sometimes very amusing) tweets on the riots, water cannon really tend to be used to disperse large crowds. Not sure they'd make much difference against fast-moving small groups anyway. I'd like to see the police given free rein now to wade in when shops are being looted, with snatch squads grabbing as many of those inside as possible backed up by large numbers of officers. Anyone that gets battered shouldn't be there anyway so can have no complaints.

 

[Coleby1007]

that would be because we dont use water cannon, so dont have any. which is why suggesting we use them is rather silly.

Much better suggesting to use them rather than standing in a line behind a perspex shield

 

[Dr Q]

maybe we could call in the armed forces fire engines?

not a bad idea, but I think they might have had to set off last week, those things are slooooooow!

 

[JJ McClure]

Why is it rather silly to suggest using them? Perhaps if we did use them they'd actually be of some help rather than the coppers all just standing around scratching their arses.

 

[Coleby1007]

A point Danny Baker made in his (sometimes very amusing) tweets on the riots, water cannon really tend to be used to disperse large crowds. Not sure they'd make much difference against fast-moving small groups anyway. I'd like to see the police given free rein now to wade in when shops are being looted, with snatch squads grabbing as many of those inside as possible backed up by large numbers of officers. Anyone that gets battered shouldn't be there anyway so can have no complaints.

This. There was a retired ploiceman on the radio yesterday evening, sounded a top bloke and was so passionate about keeping out streets in order, he was basically saying how the police force at ground level have their hands tied behind their backs and are under orders to contain and defend rather than kick the shyte out of some of these morons.

Its the people above in the offices making the decisions that are too scared to give any meaningful orders in fear of the backlash if they get it wrong. Catch 22

 

[FamilyGuy]

Just heard that in the whole of the UK there is only 1 water cannon available to the police, and its in shitting Ireland.

I dont understand why the police dont do some sort of deal with B & Q for a bulk load of pressure washers. I saw at the weekend theyre half price.

See how these cnuts like to steal plasmas and I-pads when theyre having layers of skin burnt off by these babies.

They would be perfect, everyone could have one and they could wear the water packs on their backs, abit like ghostbusters only in this case cuntbusters!

Isn't there a hosepipe ban anyway?

 

[trueblue]

This. There was a retired ploiceman on the radio yesterday evening, sounded a top bloke and was so passionate about keeping out streets in order, he was basically saying how the police force at ground level have their hands tied behind their backs and are under orders to contain and defend rather than kick the shyte out of some of these morons.

Its the people above in the offices making the decisions that are too scared to give any meaningful orders in fear of the backlash if they get it wrong. Catch 22

They don't seem to realise that most people would understand there's a difference between this and the problems there have been at demos in the past. When large numbers of people - the vast majority law-abiding - are gathered for a legitimate protest, heavy-handed policing is out of place in a democracy. But when severe criminal acts are taking place right under their noses, I can't see how anyone would moan about the riot police getting stuck in.

Not that's it's easy for the individual officers to make that distinction in the heat of the moment. They need the orders from above and some knowledge that they will not be facing a prosecution themselves.

 

[Everest]

But we have plenty of fire engines,

But they're all being used to control the fires

 

[Ecosse Exile]

But they're all being used to control the fires

The Army ones?, I dont think so, not unless the squaddies are looting and setting fire to the NAAFI!

 

[Superphil]

WE DON'T HAVE WATER CANNONS because up until very recently we were a decent civilised society, THAT IS WHY WE DON'T HAVE ANY, THERE ARE NONE, WE CAN'T MAGIC THEM OUT OF THIN AIR.

As for fire engines spraying protestors, the fire service and the equipment are not desigend for such activity. The fire engines are not protected, the scum would simply round the machines and attack them. Water cannon enanbled machines are armoured, protected, and the opperators trained in their use.

That said, It's now time to get over to France maybe, borrow some of theirs, and then start using them. It will be a sad day for Great Britain, the end of a tolerent and civilised society, but now is the time to do it.

 

[Storer 68]

But we have plenty of fire engines, i dont know i have never got in the way of a fire hose, but that water seems to come out at a fair rate of knots, maybe we could call in the armed forces fire engines?

Better used putting out fires imho

 

[ROSM]

Phil,

I would stand and say we are still a civilised society. The fact that people are so shocked and angry at what has happened (and are organising clean up squads in some areas) and that the police dont go round beating hell out of people, and we dont deploy the army to shoot a few shows we are civilised.

This happened in 81 and 85 and will happen again in the future. It's how we react to it which demonstrates how civilised a society we are.

Btw has RIM (the Blackberry people) blocked Blackberry messaging yet? that would be a help

 

[Everest]

The Army ones?, I dont think so, not unless the squaddies are looting and setting fire to the NAAFI!

No, the regular ones, which is why I took out the bit about the army ones.

 

[BensGrandad]

I know that it is probably not civilised but then we are not dealing with civilised people here so why not train the army in the use of water cannons and then deploy a couple at most army barracks which can then be called in if needed. Apart from London based troops how long would it have taken to mobilise and get assistance from troops based in Aldershot or Colchester.

 

[-gully-]

Any Airport fire truck will do. There will be spare vehicles at most airports and most military airfields.

 

[ROSM]

maybe if the water had a coloured dye it could be used to help identify at a later date, who was at the scene of an incident. But as has been said before this is academic if we dont have the materials (armoured water cannon vehicles) to deploy.

 

[Acker79]

I thought I heard yesterday either on the radio or on sky news, that the use of water cannons was illegal in england.

I just did a quick search (don't have time to linger) and theresa may is saying there is no legal authority for using water cannons. I don't know what that means, it sounds an odd way of saying it's illegal, so it sounds more like, as suggested above, we don't have a water cannon unit trained to use etc.