crodonilson
He/Him
That's the next one that should be banned, lazy prejudiced lyrics.
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[Music] Fairytale of New York - PC gone mad or correct decision?
- Thread starter NorthstandRacoon
- Start date
That's the next one that should be banned, lazy prejudiced lyrics.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
- 28,272
It's a nice distraction from the real news of failure of government on multiple levels and multiple departments. We mustn't look at the injustices of what happened at Grenfel, the PPE procurement scandals, the looming Brexit disaster, the inability to feed our own schoolchildren.. etc etc.... But let's go head mental about removing an offensive word from a Christmas song.
Leekbrookgull
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Shoe in for Christmas No 1.
midnight_rendezvous
Well-known member
Pretty much sums it up for me. The official Pogues Twitter seem to agree too 
Pretty sure it was. Was definitely that album they were touring and I was 14 in 88/89.
As I said in the other thread, this seems like an incredibly sensible decision by the BBC if you actually read what they’re doing.
They’re playing a decent, amended version on Radio 1 that is more appropriate for current times and the youth of today who ultimately are their core audience. Despite being out of their target age range, I fall on this side. I don’t think the lyrics are appropriate or necessary anymore.
But if you’re one of those who needs to listen to the original, you can on Radio 2 and then it’s down to the individual DJ’s choice on Radio 6.
I can’t see any reason at all for a negative response to this. I shouldn’t be surprised but I cannot for the life of me work out why the Daily Mail brigade have got their knickers in such a knot again. Are they/you bored of Marcus Rashford already?!
They’re playing a decent, amended version on Radio 1 that is more appropriate for current times and the youth of today who ultimately are their core audience. Despite being out of their target age range, I fall on this side. I don’t think the lyrics are appropriate or necessary anymore.
But if you’re one of those who needs to listen to the original, you can on Radio 2 and then it’s down to the individual DJ’s choice on Radio 6.
I can’t see any reason at all for a negative response to this. I shouldn’t be surprised but I cannot for the life of me work out why the Daily Mail brigade have got their knickers in such a knot again. Are they/you bored of Marcus Rashford already?!
Stato
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- Dec 21, 2011
- 7,367
McGowan was the singer in the 'nipple erectors' aka the nips.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCZwhuYBjOs
Cockney wanker.
Not only is he a massive cock, he has a massive cock according to an ex girlfriend of mine who had an encounter with it.
I rather enjoyed the Pogues. Never dig too deeply into the antecedants of musical entertainers. It always ends in disappointment.
- May 8, 2018
- 10,624
Wait until the cyclists hear driving home for Christmas
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ATFC Seagull
Aberystwyth Town FC
Surely if you've listened to the Pogues to any great length you'd know that most of them grew up in London! A huge amount of their songs reference London and second-generation culture. They've never made any attempt to hide or disguise what they were.
Why does it not sit well with you?
Dunno. I think I used the wrong phrase there. Haven’t listened to them much since I was in my teens and twenties, and it was always the soundtrack to a drunken time, didn’t pay much attention to the lyrics
ATFC Seagull
Aberystwyth Town FC
I'm loathe to be disagreeing with the great Stephen Fry, but for me the "People are offended by __________, how ridiculous" is the biggest straw man argument used by the populist/right-wing/whatever side of the debate.
NO-ONE IS CLAIMING TO BE "OFFENDED".
The BLM statue debate in the summer. "People are offended by some statues, what snowflakes". Nope, no one said they were offended. People just think slave traders don't deserve massive statues of themselves in city centres.
This Pogues debate. "Who is offended by that word in the song". Probably no-one. It's been removed because it's now considered incredibly homophobic and nasty, and we don't want kids casually repeating it.
I'm offended by this statement. Meaning it is no longer true if it ever was, and that I can go back to not being offended.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
- 18,201
Quite, I love the people who get upset about people being outraged 'on behalf of someone else' while doing exactly the same themselves.
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Damn straight (or gay, trans etc).
And as sure as eggs are eggs, Shane will still cop for a million or so every Christmas and lots of people will enjoy the song (or hate it) whichever version is played.
Washie
Well-known member
I do find it funny how the people who removed a word that a few gay people i know seriously dislike and finds deeply offensive are being calling snowflakes, by people acting like snowflakes.