[Football] Come on Villa!

BeHereNow · Jul 12, 2020

Harry Wilson's tackle said:
To finish above Palace we need at least another 6 points. We may finish above palace if we get them. However, we may now finish below Villa. I do realise there are people on NSC quite content for us to gain only 6 points all season if that's from doing the double over Palace. This has nothing to do with avoiding embarrassment. It is about avoiding relegation. Just ecause it is all in our hands doesn't preclude wishing for some advantage from other results. Anyway, you got your wish.

Look, Villa only need to lose 1 out of Palace, Everton, Arsenal and West Ham.

So, to really want the team above us (who are catchable) to win rather than the other 3 teams is short sighted, impatient and very pessimistic.

To want Palace to win to ‘save our season’ shows a total lack of belief in our team.

Hopefully Potter will be drumming it into the lads that we can finish 14th with a strong end to the season.

Uh_huh_him · Jul 12, 2020

BeHereNow said:
Look, Villa only need to lose 1 out of Palace, Everton, Arsenal and West Ham.

So, to really want the team above us (who are catchable) to win rather than the other 3 teams is short sighted, impatient and very pessimistic.

To want Palace to win to ‘save our season’ shows a total lack of belief in our team.

Hopefully Potter will be drumming it into the lads that we can finish 14th with a strong end to the season.

Indeed.
If anything this result should motivate our players for Thursday night.
3 points will see us safe (barring a GD landslide to Villa)

BeHereNow · Jul 12, 2020

Uh_huh_him said:
Indeed.
If anything this result should motivate our players for Thursday night.
3 points will see us safe (barring a GD landslide to Villa)

That’s what I thought it terms of motivation, if Palace won today (which they didn’t, they lost...again :lol:

) we’d have almost nothing left to play for. The players should be much more up for it now.

They know a win will keep us from getting caught by Villa and get us to within 3 points of 14th place.

If I was a player, I’d not want to see this thread because of the lack of belief from our fans.

Seemingly, a great day for us two :lol:

Thunder Bolt · Jul 12, 2020

12 year old arrested for racial abuse of Wilfred Zaha.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...use-arrest-child-crystal-palace-a9614961.html

Green Cross Code Man · Jul 12, 2020

Thunder Bolt said:
12 year old arrested for racial abuse of Wilfred Zaha.

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...use-arrest-child-crystal-palace-a9614961.html

What a sorry state of affairs. A 12 year old.

Mackenzie · Jul 12, 2020

Time to look up Albion, 14th position is a possibility.

Neville's Breakfast · Jul 12, 2020

BeHereNow said:
That’s what I thought it terms of motivation, if Palace won today (which they didn’t, they lost...again ) we’d have almost nothing left to play for. The players should be much more up for it now.

They know a win will keep us from getting caught by Villa and get us to within 3 points of 14th place.

If I was a player, I’d not want to see this thread because of the lack of belief from our fans.

Seemingly, a great day for us two

I don’t really understand the point you are making. The next stage for our club is comfortable mid table. That is what we aspire to next season. Personally I have no interest in keeping us on the fringes of relegation as some sort of motivational tool. I want to be well clear as soon as possible. That is what comfortable mid table looks like.

Uh_huh_him · Jul 12, 2020

Mackenzie said:
Time to look up Albion, 14th position is a possibility.

At the very least we should be closing the gap.

Important that we carry some momentum into next season (and Palace do too)

FatSuperman · Jul 12, 2020

Neville's Breakfast said:
We are six points clear not eight. Maybe the grasp of Maths explains the complacency ?

A bit of dodgy accounting does wonders. But yes, I glanced at the table on BBC but it hadn't taken into account the win for Villa, must have not updated after the goals. I assumed it was live, but clearly not!

Caveman · Jul 12, 2020

Uh_huh_him said:
At the very least we should be closing the gap.

Important that we carry some momentum into next season (and Palace do too)

Important point this!

Uh_huh_him · Jul 12, 2020

Neville's Breakfast said:
I don’t really understand the point you are making. The next stage for our club is comfortable mid table. That is what we aspire to next season. Personally I have no interest in keeping us on the fringes of relegation as some sort of motivational tool. I want to be well clear as soon as possible. That is what comfortable mid table looks like.

??

Sorry you aren't making any sense.
If the next stage for our club is "comfortable mid-table" then we are safe. yes?
Relying on other teams to keep us up, is about as far away from comfortable mid table as you can get.

To get to "comfortable mid-table" we need to go up the table, not stay where we are.

Uh_huh_him · Jul 12, 2020

6 pts clear with 3 to play!

who'd have thought? eh?

Caveman · Jul 12, 2020

Am I right in thinking if results go our way, by the time we kick off Thursday evening we could be all but safe (counting goal difference)?

Neville's Breakfast · Jul 12, 2020

Uh_huh_him said:
??

Sorry you aren't making any sense.
If the next stage for our club is "comfortable mid-table" then we are safe. yes?
Relying on other teams to keep us up, is about as far away from comfortable mid table as you can get.

To get to "comfortable mid-table" we need to go up the table, not stay where we are.

I was responding to your point that a Villa win was a good thing because it gives our players something to play for. Almost seemed like you don’t mind us being on the fringes of relegation. Anyway, I don’t actually think we will go down. I am just always going to cheer on any result that gives advantage to the Albion.

BeHereNow · Jul 12, 2020

Neville's Breakfast said:
I don’t really understand the point you are making. The next stage for our club is comfortable mid table. That is what we aspire to next season. Personally I have no interest in keeping us on the fringes of relegation as some sort of motivational tool. I want to be well clear as soon as possible. That is what comfortable mid table looks like.

The motivation is getting 14th place...our best PL finish. I’d rather be concentrating on that than a freak set of results that would send us down.

‘well clear as soon as possible’. What’s the obsession with knowing as soon as possible? They lose, they can’t overtake us, I was willing to wait an extra game because it gives us a better chance of finishing 14th. If they were 6 points behind us before the game, then I probably would have taken a different view.

I’m confident we will get points, and I’m even more confident that Villa will lose.

When they do lose, all this ‘wanting Palace to win, because we aren’t confident of our own team’ stuff will look even more silly than it does now.

He who dares Rodney, he who dares.

BeHereNow · Jul 12, 2020

Neville's Breakfast said:
I was responding to your point that a Villa win was a good thing because it gives our players something to play for. Almost seemed like you don’t mind us being on the fringes of relegation. Anyway, I don’t actually think we will go down. I am just always going to cheer on any result that gives advantage to the Albion.

But you could say that about Villa winning giving us a chance of getting into 14th place.

That’s what we should be focusing on, we wouldn’t be if Palace won.

IF we do go on to finish 14th, this will turn out to be a massive result.

DavidinSouthampton · Jul 12, 2020

Is it PotG? said:
Whatever you say, but I shall certainly be cheering on Palace today.

Me too, not that it did much good!

Change at Barnham · Jul 12, 2020

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo said:
He was sent off for dissent so unfortunately for Palace he will only miss one game not three.

I think he was sent off for hitting out at someone and gets a 3 match ban.
His season is over, which he's probably quite pleased about!

Uh_huh_him · Jul 12, 2020

Caveman said:
Am I right in thinking if results go our way, by the time we kick off Thursday evening we could be all but safe (counting goal difference)?

Yep!

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