[Albion] The 2021-22 Scholars and U-18 Matches Thread

Hugo Rune · Mar 6, 2022

Springal said:
Man Utd have signed Toby Collyer from us apparently.

Seems that he has been frozen out after we realised he planned to leave.

https://www.unitedinfocus.com/news/...t-to-sign-brighton-prospect-toby-collyer/?amp

“The 18-year-old has already captained England at youth level and has been dubbed as one of the best young central midfielders in the country.”

GT49er · Mar 7, 2022

Not sure about that. The Manchester United story seems to be very much orientated to the 'Big Club Little Club' trope - can't see why we would keep him out of the team out of ... what ... spite? - surely better to play him, enhance his reputation and secure a higher level of compensation.
From the lad's point of view, I would think it would be better to stay with us, get a breakthrough a la Ben White and quadruple his wages with a big money move. But maybe United are just throwing money at him and his agent. That very often works ................................

Change at Barnham · Mar 7, 2022

Springal said:
Man Utd have signed Toby Collyer from us apparently.

Manchester United have a put deal in place to sign Brighton's teenage midfielder Toby Collyer.
The 18-year-old defensive midfielder has captained England at U16 and U17 level but had failed to agree terms on a deal at Brighton, where he played 25 games for their U18s and U23s last season.
The teenager had enjoyed a successful trial period with United appearing in a friendly game for the club's U23s against Huddersfield Town last month and suitably impressed the coaching staff.
Collyer, who also had interest from Chelsea, has agreed a three and half year contract ahead of formally signing for United.
This season Collyer has played just once for Brighton, featuring for the U18s against Leicester in August.
Although he is mainly a midfielder, Collyer filled in at centre-back on a couple of occasions for Brighton U18s last season.
Collyer made his debut for Brighton U23s against Tottenham in January 2021 shortly after turning 17.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10581993/Manchester-United-agree-deal-sign-Brighton-starlet-Toby-Collyer-following-trial.html

Weststander · Mar 7, 2022

All this talk of Skolars.

Garry Nelson's Left Foot · Mar 7, 2022

GT49er said:
Not sure about that. The Manchester United story seems to be very much orientated to the 'Big Club Little Club' trope - can't see why we would keep him out of the team out of ... what ... spite? - surely better to play him, enhance his reputation and secure a higher level of compensation.
From the lad's point of view, I would think it would be better to stay with us, get a breakthrough a la Ben White and quadruple his wages with a big money move. But maybe United are just throwing money at him and his agent. That very often works ................................

To be fair Man united have a pretty decent record of bringing through and playing young players. That doesn't exclude the part money might have played but I don't think it's a crazy decision. Other than the obvious fact that you'd have to be crazy to turn your back on the Albion.

Super Steve Earle · Mar 7, 2022

Zac Sturge and now Collyer rejecting terms with us. What's going on!

BNthree · Mar 7, 2022

Super Steve Earle said:
Zac Sturge and now Collyer rejecting terms with us. What's going on!

Presumably they want way more money than we’re willing to offer?

GT49er · Mar 7, 2022

BNthree said:
Presumably they want way more money than we’re willing to offer?

Exodus form the development team - Ashworth and Morling gone, Rusk last year - and I think there was another one whose name I can't remember?

Ooh it’s a corner · Mar 7, 2022

GT49er said:
Exodus form the development team - Ashworth and Morling gone, Rusk last year - and I think there was another one whose name I can't remember?

On an even more worrying level I haven’t seen any AZGull posts recently - hope all ok. I accept this could be my lack of attention of course.

GT49er · Mar 7, 2022

Ooh it’s a corner said:
On an even more worrying level I haven’t seen any AZGull posts recently - hope all ok. I accept this could be my lack of attention of course.

AmexRuislip had the same thought a couple of weeks or so ago. He contacted him - he's OK, but taking a break from NSC for a while. Hope he comes back soon.

Ooh it’s a corner · Mar 7, 2022

GT49er said:
AmexRuislip had the same thought a couple of weeks or so ago. He contacted him - he's OK, but taking a break from NSC for a while. Hope he comes back soon.

Thanks GT - was a bit worried he was on gardening leave with DA. As he is so knowledgeable about our academy/youth set-up I was hoping he could reassure us ordinary fans that the world is not crumbling(we know it is in another ways of course!)

BNthree · Mar 7, 2022

AZ Gull is still posting on twitter with academy info: https://twitter.com/SeagullsAcademy

amexer · Mar 7, 2022

Hugo Rune said:
Seems that he has been frozen out after we realised he planned to leave.

https://www.unitedinfocus.com/news/...t-to-sign-brighton-prospect-toby-collyer/?amp

“The 18-year-old has already captained England at youth level and has been dubbed as one of the best young central midfielders in the country.”

Was he a local Sussex lad ? Why has he gone ? Money. Lack of recognition,games etc Anybody know

Roadrunner · Mar 7, 2022

amexer said:
Was he a local Sussex lad ? Why has he gone ? Money. Lack of recognition,games etc Anybody know

He's definitely a local lad; I work at the same place as his dad. I don't see him very often, but I'll make a polite enquiry next time I do.....

Terry Butcher Tribute Act · Mar 7, 2022

amexer said:
Was he a local Sussex lad ? Why has he gone ? Money. Lack of recognition,games etc Anybody know

I looked this up the other day - Worthing apparently. A big shame but it is possible some of the local kids see the shift towards paying big money for youngsters or shipping them in from abroad, pushing them further down the pecking order, maybe.

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Sea Cider · Mar 7, 2022

Terry Butcher Tribute Act said:
I looked this up the other day - Worthing apparently. A big shame but it is possible some of the local kids see the shift towards paying big money for youngsters or shipping them in from abroad, pushing them further down the pecking order, maybe.

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Or alternatively, one of the biggest clubs in world football (with a currently mediocre midfield) has made him a large offer and he backs his talent to succeed there?

Terry Butcher Tribute Act · Mar 7, 2022

Sea Cider said:
Or alternatively, one of the biggest clubs in world football (with a currently mediocre midfield) has made him a large offer and he backs his talent to succeed there?

Well yes - i realise i should have quoted the posts above about why other youngsters have turned down deals too.

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GT49er · Mar 7, 2022

Sea Cider said:
Or alternatively, one of the biggest clubs in world football (with a currently mediocre midfield) has made him a large offer and he backs his talent to succeed there?

It's still a shame, whatever the reason.

BNthree · Mar 7, 2022

Due to the Brexit rules meaning English clubs can’t sign foreign youngsters until they’re 18 now there will be more of this sort going on with bigger clubs poaching smaller clubs’ youngsters.

Terry Butcher Tribute Act · Mar 8, 2022

BNthree said:
Due to the Brexit rules meaning English clubs can’t sign foreign youngsters until they’re 18 now there will be more of this sort going on with bigger clubs poaching smaller clubs’ youngsters.

Good call. Hadn't considered that. What a pain.

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