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According to Mark’s gospel they did not.

Where do you find the shepherds and the wise men together?

You can be saved without the need to believe anything according to both John the Baptist and Jesus.

As a light hearted aside … I’m on holiday at the moment and visited a fine Italian cathedral this morning where they had a museum of religious paintings and models depicting biblical scenes. One that was repeated several times was shepherds and wise men worshipping the baby Jesus in a stable...

Which is why what you have said is wrong. Both John and Jesus said you could find salvation by something that was unrelated to believing in the resurrection.

If Jesus was resurrected, why did no-one write about it at the time? Not his followers, not Jewish leaders, not Roman authorities or historians. No-one. After the crucifixion graves opened and zombies wandered around Jerusalem, but no-one thought that worthy of comment either. The gospels were...

This statement is not true. In Mark chapter 1 John the Baptist says that if you repent of your sins and are baptised you will be saved. While in Matthew 25 Jesus says, be nice to people - that’s it.

Your prophecies are both disputed by scholars. Many think that the suffering servant in Isaiah 53 is the Jewish nation, not Jesus. Some say the translation in Psalm 22 should be “like a lion my hands and feet”.

Ask your average Christian to explain the holy trinity. Most of them claim to believe, but have no idea what the trinity is.

Note that the Jewish messiah (a man) and Jesus aka god are two totally different things. Messiah is the Hebrew for the Greek word Christ, which means the anointed one, a term often applied to kings or religious leaders. It doesn’t mean god or the son of god. The Jews didn’t expect the messiah...

Why don’t you apply the same level of critical analysis to the bible that you apply to the forger’s letter?

Even if you could date it to 30 CE there is still no evidence to suggest that it had anything to do with a convicted felon called Jesus.

While many footballers cross themselves as they enter the pitch, as if god gives a **** about the outcome of a football match.

Great question! Come to think of it, why do we pray at all? Any evidence of it doing any good?

Leviticus 20:13 says that gay men should be put to death. I guess that means they don’t get to go to heaven. Your second question is interesting as, if a gay person ‘believes’, are they saved? Over to @kuzushi.

Quick, flippant, stupid and not addressing the issue. What I’ve come to expect from most people blinded by their faith.

As god doesn’t exist, these problems are the fault of people.

Let’s start by looking at Mark and Matthew. Note that none of the gospels were written by who they claim to be, the names were a much later addition by the church. I order them Mark , then Matthew as Mark was written first, Matthew and Luke copy Mark (often word for word), add some bits and...

The last few verses of Mark 16 are fake news. Any honest bible includes these verses but admits that they are not found in early manuscripts.

I’ve tried to be polite and acknowledge other people’s beliefs in this discussion, but you’re talking total bollocks. The Jesus who may or may not have existed might have been a nice guy. But to say that everyone recognises there is something special about Jesus is a lie. The Jesus who was...