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Totally agree. And for £12m. You can’t get a young winger from the Danish league for that anymore. Let alone a home grown international midfielder with Premier League experience who’s 23/24 years old. I honestly still don’t get it. I get why so many want to big the club up, but this deal still...

Wasn’t he MotM the week before? He didn’t look that disaffected. And that doesn’t stop it being poor negotiation on the club’s part.

Totally agree. I’d argue Beckham was a 7/10 at everything as a minimum, but a 10/10 at the things he did well. The reality is, he wouldn’t be playing as a RW in the modern era though… he’d either be a deep lying playmaker or a RB, probably. But he was a brilliant talent, of that there’s no doubt.

To us as negotiators. To how fans see the club and the deal. To the fact that, for a second season in a row, we’ve lost our first choice midfield from the previous year and we now have Milner in there as a go to option. I mean it’s not a good deal from the club’s perspective, there’s no getting...

Or confirms that the club are doing damage limitation with the PR.

Personally I think we’re still a little way away, although not having Europe to worry about helps, assuming we can finally get a handle on the injuries that have plagued us for the last 2-3 seasons… not that it’s been the best start in that regard.

Beckham, the guy that played for Man Utd during some of their most successful years, Real Madrid, AC Milan, PSG… was average at everything but crossing? That’s some take.

He literally didn’t. And the ball wasn’t stationary anyway, so Veltman shouldn’t have been taking the free kick until it was. You can’t implement the rule of stopping a free kick when you’re not even implementing the rule on proper free kick procedure.

No it wasn’t. He kicked the ball away in what would’ve been a sign of dissent. It’s a different rule, but he’s far more guilty of it than Rice is of barely nudging a moving ball to the side.

My understanding was that kicking the ball away in the way he did would be seen as dissent. But they may have updated this.

Except Joao Pedro. Today. In the same game.

The guy was moving away from the ball, with a non-stationary ball (which means the free kick wasn’t even ready to be taken from our side), which he slightly nudged to the side. I’m an Albion fan through and through, but you’re kidding yourself if you think there’s nothing to debate there.

Based on the highlights we openly had one shot 😂

Absolutely. And the referee in this instance interpreted this one way, interpreted Joao’s kick away a different way. One led to a yellow that led to a red that left Arsenal 1-0 down. Inconsistency of interpretation. As I said, if this was the other way around, we’d be furious.

He barely moved the ball. And stuff like that happens minimum 3-4 times a game. He could’ve legitimately argued he just tried to knock it backwards to Veltman. Anyway, it’s a difference of opinion. I get why the decision was made, but I don’t agree with it, and it leaves far too much to...

The issue is the lack of consistency. We’d have been furious if it was given the other way. Do I think Veltman did anything wrong? No, not in the slightest. Did Rice do something that deserved a yellow? Barely. If that’s a yellow, we may as well all pack up our bags now.

Absolutely true. Given the unknown quantity of many of our new players, and how young our new manager is, I’m surprised we didn’t keep him around for some insurance for a while… Anyway, we’ll see how it goes.

Which is all well and good if the new manager stays for 5 years. Less so if it ends up not going well and we have an early parting of ways ala RDZ.

I prefer the word “pragmatic”. I did preface my post by saying it could turn into a 10 😀 the fact that we’ve bought all these players and we still have Milner starting in CM and Hinshelwood at LB against Arsenal highlights why that pragmatism is there. The fact is many thought we had a 9/10 or...

A 6 from me, but it really could end up being a 2 or a 10 in hindsight, once we’ve seen the outcomes. The negatives first - losing Gross and Gilmour weakens us substantially, on the face of it. We didn’t get a pacy CB which I’d have had as a priority signing, nor did we get an out and out...