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Its fascinating isnt it. Starmer a self declared ''Zionist'' and member of Labour Friends of Israel - an Apartheid state currrently committing genocide is seen as ok by the media and is never declared a racist - whereas Corbyn a man who has for a lifetime has spoken out on behalf and fought for...

Corbyn was also one of the few to speak out publicly about the Saudi bombardment and war crimes being committed in Yemen.

Milner can also fill in. Great tackler, strong, short passing more than good enough. Leave Gilmore to do the more offensive stuff. Obviously not a long term solution..

Indeed. None of the policies that Corbyn proposed in the Labour Manifesto were extreme and are in fact in existence in many countries today including Europe. The possibility of privatisation of some industries e.g rail, higher taxes for the richest, position on Israel was unacceptable to big...

Unfortunately being supportive of Palestinian rights easily attracts the liberally wielded anti-semitism smears (as we are witnessing during current events). Was a convenient (and successful) tool for the Labour right and Tories.

Some of the Starmer devotees

Remember the "command centre" under al shifa hospital". Seems to be yet another lie used to justify yet another war crime. https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/israeli-hamas-command-center-al-shifa-hospital-falls-report-1234934784/

A Human Rights Watch report finds that Instagram and Facebook are censoring and suppressing Palestinian support and news/reports of the ongoing Israeli atrocities. https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/12/20/meta-systemic-censorship-palestine-content

The 2019 Labour manifesto looked pretty good

What Labour should do and what they will is another matter. Slimy Starmer, Streeting et al firmly are in bed with big business, corporate donors and Murdoch press so there will be no incentive / motivation for them to change much. There may be cosmetic tweaks to policy but ultimately don't...

The Israeli ambassador to the UK doesn't think the Palestinians should have their own state. Be interested to know what she has planned for them other than the massacre and displacement thats going on now.

You will find there a few on here that will contort themselves in the most odd amoral positions to defend Starmer and Israel despite whats going on. This will often be followed by wielding accusations anti-semitism as a weapon. Its very transparent.

Sad times (to put it mildly) where we cant even expect our opposition leader to speak out against ethnic cleansing, occupation / apartheid. Starmer is clearly dishonest, unambitious (policy wise) and his morals and position are wholly dependent on whether it brings him to power rather than what...

Interesting "analysis".. 🤔 Firstly, the war has been going on for 8 years so "news fatigue" sets in. Secondly Ukraine/Russia situation has taken over coverage. Lastly the US and UK are selling vast amount of arms and giving strategic support to Saudi Arabia - who have committed multiple war...

Control of routes to deliver oil / other supplies is often a factor. Good example is is the war in Yemen where due to its geographic location, control of the ports are crucial for maritime trade. The humanitarian situation in Yemen is horrific but has drifted out of the news.

Indeed. Peter Kyle is a Labour Friends of Israel Chair so don't hope for too much action from him. Odd form of democracy we are developing in the UK where out politicians on both parties are subject to heavy influence from a hard right foreign Apartheid state that is and has for decades...

Would Ferguson be continuing to start if we didn't have as many injuries? The ability is there, but was v poor today and has been for a while. A rest would help when we have numbers back.

Had to tune out for a bit as seeing the massacres and war crimes being carried out takes a mental toll after a while (Imagine being subjected to it in person). The unconditional backing of Israeli actions by the majority of our politicians is shameful. Another poster said they felt hopeless and...

Anyone know why electric leasing deals appear to have dropped heavily in the last few+ months? Was looking compared to 9 months ago and a lot of the cars are half what they were?

Lots of conjecture there but will leave you to that. Everyone in their right and moral minds should be for peace and safety for both Israelis and Palestinians alike. It will never happen if the decades of occupation and Apartheid continues and the UK and especially the US continue to back it...