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Pickford's keeping England in the game.

"In Berlin, the wind of change is with England!" He's been waiting all night to get that one in. :)

I think they're both on holiday.

Having scored, Spain are still attacking and going for the 2nd to kill the game off. Compare that to what England perpetually do.

Lose Rodri, then score. Could be 2 nil down. No excuses for England now to start committing players forward. Watkins for Kane asap to stretch the Spanish defence and pin them back.

I'm going for at least 2 bans (1 on each side) from the thread and one perma-holiday from NSC before the thread is closed. Probably in the next 30 minutes.

Not so much 'You're Fired' as 'You Fired'.

As winning the WC is harder than winning the Euros, it's unlikely that we'd win that in style if we're not showing much of it in this. I know what you're saying though - a trophy in any England fans lifetime is a big thing. But was Le Tournoi not enough for you? ;)

Hoping to watch a comprehensive Spanish victory tomorrow to signal the end of someone's time at the top. And after the tennis finishes, I'll be cheering on Southgate's England in front of the TV.

In fairness, you're probably right. The purist and the pragmatist will rarely agree on the fundamentals. For me, it's also about falling in love with the football a side plays, not winning by default because you've bored the other side and your own fans to death. "The great fallacy is that the...

For getting England to the Final... For the style of play that got us there...

So what you're saying is apart from the first part being wrong and the second part being irrelevant, he's basically right?

And, of course, the same is equally true in reverse. Having already praised him for his accomplishments, it's not beyond the realms of possibility that fair criticism might be leveled. I don't mind you saying that it may come across as being damned with faint praise - from my side, that's a...

1st paragraph I've never said Pickford should have been dropped. That's not loyalty - it's just continuity. Capello's decisons have nothing to do with Southgate - different manager, different times. We've had another 2 plus Pearce before Southgate since then. No idea why former managers are...

This is especially true if they watch England play. ;)

Bit annoying to have gone all that way only to find yourself stuck behind a red oval.

But even with its differences, it's still football management. Given the choice and their highly unlikely availability, I'd go with Pep or Klopp seeing as you mentioned them. Without the benefit of 8 years hindsight, would you have gone for the guy who took Middlesbrough down in 19th? The guy...

I can't speak for everyone else, but as your post came immediately after mine I felt it might be worth clearing up a few things. Having read through the entire thread, the 2 main gripes seem to be lack of appreciation for achievements and personal abuse. Firstly, as an England fan, I'm more...

Seeing as England squeaked past Slovakia and Switzerland, it could be a perfect match.

Firstly, there would be no need to sack him as his contract expires in December. It could be left to run down. Secondly, there's 2 separate things that you're talking about here. 1. The overall quality of his replacement. 2. Whether or not a replacement would get the players on their side as...