[Albion] Dele Alli

Randy McNob · Feb 12, 2024

I sympathise with Dele's personal issues, however, there is a theme with young English players who are overhyped at a young age and never go on to fulfill their promise. Theo Walcott, Aaron Lennon, Shaun Wright Phillips, Ross Barkley, Ali. I think we build them up too much at too young an age. Players used to be considered young even at 24, but these days they are thrown in the team as teenagers when they have the ability but are still developing

BadFish · Feb 12, 2024

Randy McNob said:
I sympathise with Dele's personal issues, however, there is a theme with young English players who are overhyped at a young age and never go on to fulfill their promise. Theo Walcott, Aaron Lennon, Shaun Wright Phillips, Ross Barkley, Ali. I think we build them up too much at too young an age. Players used to be considered young even at 24, but these days they are thrown in the team as teenagers when they have the ability but are still developing

This has been happening for a pretty long time. Michael Owen, Robbie Folwer, Class of 92 etc

GT49er · Feb 12, 2024

BadFish said:
This has been happening for a pretty long time. Michael Owen, Robbie Folwer, Class of 92 etc

I don't think you can count Owen and Fowler as under-achievers! Shorter careers than they would have liked through injury maybe, but both reached stellar heights as goal-scorers.

BadFish · Feb 12, 2024

GT49er said:
I don't think you can count Owen and Fowler as under-achievers! Shorter careers than they would have liked through injury maybe, but both reached stellar heights as goal-scorers.

True, I more meant that they were hyped at a young age.

Randy McNob · Feb 12, 2024

GT49er said:
I don't think you can count Owen and Fowler as under-achievers! Shorter careers than they would have liked through injury maybe, but both reached stellar heights as goal-scorers.

Fowler 163 prem goals in 379 appearances. Mo Salah 153 goals 251 appearances. Hmm

Questions · Feb 12, 2024

GT49er said:
I don't think you can count Owen and Fowler as under-achievers! Shorter careers than they would have liked through injury maybe, but both reached stellar heights as goal-scorers.

I think Badfish was alluring to the fact that kids have always been thrown in if they are good enough and most are ok with early success. Cripes…. We do it enough but let’s hope they’re monitored by people who care though for their welfare.

Left Footer · Feb 12, 2024

Randy McNob said:
Fowler 163 prem goals in 379 appearances. Mo Salah 153 goals 251 appearances. Hmm

You are right 163 goals in 379 appearances is absolute shite, should never have kicked a ball to be honest.

GT49er · Feb 12, 2024

Randy McNob said:
Fowler 163 prem goals in 379 appearances. Mo Salah 153 goals 251 appearances. Hmm

163 in 379 is pretty stellar. Just because somebody has an even better scoring record doesn't diminish the achievement. Dixie Dean had a higher scoring rate, so did Pele and Jock McGrory..............so what.

Questions · Feb 12, 2024

I scored 37 goals in 16 games for Worthing boys club in 1972 and it never even gets a mention on here. Unbeaten in two seasons we were.

Ⓩ-Ⓐ-Ⓜ-Ⓞ-Ⓡ-Ⓐ · Feb 12, 2024

Herr Tubthumper said:
Fair enough. Let’s see what happens when he gets back to fitness. How long does he have on his contract at Everton?

I think he's a little stuck due a contract clause whereby Everton have to pay Spurs another £10m once he makes 20 appearances. He's currently on 17.

GloryDays · Feb 12, 2024

GT49er said:
I don't think you can count Owen and Fowler as under-achievers! Shorter careers than they would have liked through injury maybe, but both reached stellar heights as goal-scorers.

Agree. Robbie Fowler was one of the greatest English strikers of all time. Sadly we didn’t get to see it.

Guess when he did his ACL…

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo · 2025-03-15T20:18:41+0000

Made his debut off the bench today for Como against Milan in Serie A, his first game time since Feb 2023.

He lasted 9 mins before being shown a red card for a foul on Rueben Loftus-Cheek. The red was given after a VAR check upgraded his initial yellow card, apparently Kyle Walker was trying to get the ref to stick with his original decision and not give the red.

Can’t find any footage of the foul that hasn’t been geoblocked, but there is footage of Walker appearing to shake his head and stop the ref from showing the red card.

CHAPPERS · 2025-03-15T20:46:40+0000

That’s what I’ve always said about Kyle ‘Two Families’ Walker. Pure class.

ChickenDipper · 2025-03-15T20:51:29+0000

CHAPPERS said:
That’s what I’ve always said about Kyle ‘Two Families’ Walker. Pure class.

Easy to judge from the internet without knowing him though isn’t it.

As for Deli, I can’t believe how much he’s gone downhill in terms of football clubs. Feel there’s a lot more going on there.

Guinness Boy · 2025-03-15T20:54:15+0000

ChickenDipper said:
Easy to judge from the internet without knowing him though isn’t it.

As for Deli, I can’t believe how much he’s gone downhill in terms of football clubs. Feel there’s a lot more going on there.

Yeah it’s fairly easy to judge someone who had a complete other secret family. They’re generally a c**t.

AmexRuislip · 2025-03-15T20:54:40+0000

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo said:
Made his debut off the bench today for Como against Milan in Serie A, his first game time since Feb 2023.

He lasted 9 mins before being shown a red card for a foul on Rueben Loftus-Cheek. The red was given after a VAR check upgraded his initial yellow card, apparently Kyle Walker was trying to get the ref to stick with his original decision and not give the red.

Can’t find any footage of the foul that hasn’t been geoblocked, but there is footage of Walker appearing to shake his head and stop the ref from showing the red card.

...

The Optimist · 2025-03-15T20:55:10+0000

ChickenDipper said:
Easy to judge from the internet without knowing him though isn’t it.

As for Deli, I can’t believe how much he’s gone downhill in terms of football clubs. Feel there’s a lot more going on there.

Well there is this stuff that he’s talked about https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...a-child-sleeping-pill-addiction-rehab-everton

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo · 2025-03-15T20:55:16+0000

AmexRuislip said:

That was 8 years ago.

AmexRuislip · 2025-03-15T20:55:43+0000

Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo said:
That was 8 years ago.

Yeh I read it wrong

The Optimist · 2025-03-15T20:55:56+0000

AmexRuislip said:
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Well that’s a red and some (I’ve just read that that was 8 years ago)

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