[Politics] TV's Alexander Armstrong Vs VAT on private schooling

WATFORD zero · Saturday at 10:07 AM

Westdene Seagull said:
It was a poke at Watford ZERO - not those that earn less than that. He's bragged about all his investments that he's now had to move out of the UK due to Brexit.

Equally, farmers work over 12 hours a day, seven days a week, and in all weathers - and still get screwed by the supermarkets. Slightly different to working in an office on the same salary where it's warm, dry, safe and doing an 8 hour shift. I say that as an office worker.

Maybe you should have said 'this has nothing to do with the thread topic but I'm having a somewhat extraneous pop at a post someone made nearly 10 years ago on a completely different thread' and maybe naming the poster, and it would have been clearer.

I had no idea it was 'aimed' at anyone, and I read it :laugh:

Flounce · Saturday at 10:28 AM

Harry Wilson's tackle said:
No worries. All good fun.
Enjoy your day.
We are soon to be Off To The Football!

Indeed, desperate to put this Fulham hoodoo to bed! Enjoy

hart's shirt · Saturday at 10:55 AM

Harry Wilson's tackle said:
The National Curriculum was not introduced till 2002.

Please allow a slight chronological correction, H.

The National Curriculum was introduced into primary schools in 1989 following the Education Reform Act 1988.

The 1990s saw National Numeracy and Literacy initiatives which were introduced by the Conservatives in 1996 and became Strategies under New Labour.

I saw this first hand as I was training to teach during the mid 90s.

Eeyore · Saturday at 11:06 AM

Thunder Bolt said:
My kids went to local schools up north, but were quite bright, in fact, my daughter was very bright, but we had no money to spare.
They were both bullied a lot at those schools for working hard, but still went on to achieve good careers. My son coped with the bullying fairly well but at one stage, in both of their lives, the police were involved.

My daughter had a well paid job once she left uni, so sent her two to a private school so they could work hard without being assaulted nearly every day.
I can understand why.

As for VAT, yes, I think it should be paid, although I understand why faith schools have charity status because they offer scholarships.

This feeds into my point about playing the ball and not the person. I fully understand why your daughter did that. That is why I do not condemn folk for such a choice.

In my case I know folk who sent there kids to private school when they lived in areas where such an occurrence was far less likely and the local school was one of the best in the country. One of my friends parents got that and sent him to St Luke's first and then Brighton College. Must have saved them a few grand.

There'll never be another · Saturday at 11:27 AM

Why penalise people who make sacrifices to pay for private school? Should be tax relief on school fees and private health care. Reward aspiration and self reliance.

A significant percentage of the population have no interest in education and no motivation. Whatever measures Left wing governments put in place, that will never change. Juat ends up with those stuck in the middle paying more tax.

Simster · Saturday at 11:30 AM

I really hate when someone you always used to like for professional reasons turns out to be an utter f##king bellend.

Put him in the bin marked "John Cleese", although obviously not before Lawrence Fox has been scrunched up and thrown in that direction.

A1X · Saturday at 11:46 AM

I personally think it’s outrageous that they charge VAT on Lamborghini cars.

It kills aspiration and penalises people who have scrimped and saved to try and afford to buy one. It’s outrageous that those who want to be able to race away from the traffic lights have to slum it with the hoi polloi in their Fords and Peugeots. It also means Lamborghini have to up the prices which penalises other drivers.

Triggaaar · Saturday at 11:51 AM

There'll never be another said:
Why penalise people who make sacrifices to pay for private school? Should be tax relief on school fees and private health care. Reward aspiration and self reliance.

I don't have strong feelings either way on VAT on private schools or private health care, but I wouldn't class it was penalising them, any more than you'd say 'why penalise people who make sacrifices to buy a nice car'. At the end of the day, they are luxury purchases.

There'll never be another said:
A significant percentage of the population have no interest in education and no motivation. Whatever measures Left wing governments put in place, that will never change. Juat ends up with those stuck in the middle paying more tax.

Those in the middle don't send their kids to private school and don't have private healthcare. So taxing those that do, means those in the middle will pay less tax.

Creaky · Saturday at 11:59 AM

Harry Wilson's tackle said:
Universities are part of the state system (with some exceptions, such as Buckingham).
There would be as much logic to putting VAT on university fees as there would be putting VAT on prescription charges,
or council tax.

If universities are part of the state system then why do the vast majority have charitable status and all the benefits that go with that?

Only around 12.5% of their income comes from grants and these aren't all government grants. Universities in the UK are independent organisations.

DavidinSouthampton · Saturday at 12:18 PM

There'll never be another said:
Why penalise people who make sacrifices to pay for private school? Should be tax relief on school fees and private health care. Reward aspiration and self reliance.

A significant percentage of the population have no interest in education and no motivation. Whatever measures Left wing governments put in place, that will never change. Juat ends up with those stuck in the middle paying more tax.

On healthcare I would be more ambivalent, but why should I as a taxpayer subsidise the education of Jacob Rees-Mogg’s myriad children. The very idea makes me fairly angry.

Westdene Seagull · Saturday at 12:49 PM

WATFORD zero said:
Maybe you should have said 'this has nothing to do with the thread topic but I'm having a somewhat extraneous pop at a post someone made nearly 10 years ago on a completely different thread' and maybe naming the poster, and it would have been clearer.

I had no idea it was 'aimed' at anyone, and I read it

Hang on a minute - it was you that compared VAT on private schooling with IHT on farmers yet the two are not in anyway connected :shrug:

jimhigham · Saturday at 1:22 PM

Greg Bobkin said:
Mind you, anyone who uses the word 'vituperative' strikes me as the sort of person who has probably got a few spare quid here and there.

How very rebarbative of him.

That's not your cue to go looking under my mattress for banknotes.

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