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[Politics] TV's Alexander Armstrong Vs VAT on private schooling



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dsr-burnley

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WATFORD zero said:
I'm very sorry, but Private schools not being able to get benefits off the taxpayer by claiming they are charities anymore is a bit like £3m+ farms avoiding IHT (never mind, only half the rate every other family run business has to pay over £1m at twice the rate)


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Farms pay the same rate of IHT as family run businesses. As they did before the budget. You've been getting worked up unnecessarily if that's been bothering you.
 






Lady Whistledown

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Barely a day goes by now without the Telegraph publishing an article about how unfair VAT on school fees is, or how real the struggle is to live comfortably in Cobham on £150,000 per year.

We should all file it under Ignore and stop giving them the oxygen they so clearly demand.
 


WATFORD zero

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dsr-burnley said:
Farms pay the same rate of IHT as family run businesses. As they did before the budget. You've been getting worked up unnecessarily if that's been bothering you.
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Not for the first time, you are entirely wrong. If you run a family business, IHT kicks in over £1m at 40% payable immediately.

If you are a family farm, IHT kicks in over £3M at 20% with ten years to pay.

Do you really want to claim otherwise ?
 


vegster

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Rather liked the chap up until now. I have worked my nuts off all my life and will never have the amount of money he has. Ungrateful pillock.
 






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dsr-burnley

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Not for the first time, you are entirely wrong. If you run a family business, IHT kicks in over £1m at 40% payable immediately.

If you are a family farm, IHT kicks in over £3M at 20% with ten years to pay.

Do you really want to claim otherwise ?
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You're ignoring business relief. Why?
 


WATFORD zero

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dsr-burnley said:
You're ignoring business relief. Why?
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I used to think that when you backed everything Farage said and did that maybe you were naive and easily taken in. But when you deny simple proven and verifiable facts I really wonder where you are coming from.

I can't believe you are really that stupid, so what are you trying to achieve :shrug:
 




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I used to think that when you backed everything Farage said and did that maybe you were naive and easily taken in. But when you deny simple proven and verifiable facts I really wonder where you are coming from.

I can't believe you are really that stupid, so what are you trying to achieve :shrug:
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You still haven't answered why you are ignoring Business Relief. Business Relief and Agricultural Relief work in the same way and at the same rates. The one relates to family businesses, the other to farms.
 


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I don't blame parents for wanting to send their kids to private school, they just want the best for them. But the concept I find bewildering.

Many years ago, the CEO of my company spoke to me about moving to Queen's Park. They had plenty of dosh and a young daughter. I suggested places to view and explained that St Luke's School was consistently rated as outstanding. It was, at the time, the most sought after primary school in the country.

She did move to Queen's Park, ignoring my advice though, and paid for her kid to go to private school. I just couldn't work it out. All that money when the kid would have had a perfectly good education in the state system.

There seems to be a sense in many of the kids in that sector often grow up devoid of cultural integration. A friend of the family who was a teacher at a private school decided to send the kids to do outreach work in the local community, visiting older people who could do with company. My dad was on the list as he was caring for my Mum who had Alzheimers. I was there on one or two occasions and spoke to the kids but it was hard work. I heard their chatter and it seemed a world apart from the world I know.

When I was 12, my parents were in a group from my school who were contacted by Brighton College. They wouldn't have been able to afford it, so I think it must have been about a scholarship. I have vague memories of it. I am so glad they refused. The only thing I regret about it was missing out on the cricket though. That would have been good. Amazing ground.

My favourite author, Alan Bennett, often nailed it. He is always such a great listen

'My objection to private education is simply put, it is not fair. And to say that nothing is fair is not an answer'

 
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He’s a poshy, this isn’t new. Probably better if he shuts up though.
 




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Eeyore said:
When I was 12, my parents were in a group from my school who were contacted by Brighton College. They wouldn't have been able to afford it, so I think it must have been about a scholarship. I have vague memories of it. I am so glad they refused. The only thing I regret about it was missing out on the cricket though. That would have been good. Amazing ground.
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We returned from living in Dubai, when I was 11 (and my brother 12). For some reason we were invited to take the Brighton College entrance exam. After smashing their test, I was offered a very substantial scholarship.

My brother wasn’t offered any assistance, however - so my parents decided neither of us would go.

I was delighted. We’d had a tour of the school, and I’d hated it - dark rooms, and a playground that was like a caged prison yard - a huge contrast to the modern, bright school for ex-pats I’d come from.

Never, ever, in the 40 years since, have I felt for a moment that I missed out. Somerhill and Hove Park suited me perfectly well.

I‘d imagine I would have become a pretty decent cricketer, had I gone, though.
 


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hans kraay fan club said:
We returned from living in Dubai, when I was 11 (and my brother 12). For some reason we were invited to take the Brighton College entrance exam. After smashing their test, I was offered a very substantial scholarship.

My brother wasn’t offered any assistance, however - so my parents decided neither of us would go.

I was delighted. We’d had a tour of the school, and I’d hated it - dark rooms, and a playground that was like a caged prison yard - a huge contrast to the modern, bright school for ex-pats I’d come from.

Never, ever, in the 40 years since, have I felt for a moment that I missed out. Somerhill and Hove Park suited me perfectly well.

I‘d imagine I would have become a pretty decent cricketer, had I gone, though.
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Yes, now I wonder from what you say that it must have been the entrance exam.

What you say underlines the point. A good friend's daughter was at Somerhill. I know it to be well regarded. She's now at Cambridge. So Brighton College would have been a rather wasted avenue for the same journey.

But the cricket though....
 


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Lady Whistledown said:
Barely a day goes by now without the Telegraph publishing an article about how unfair VAT on school fees is, or how real the struggle is to live comfortably in Cobham on £150,000 per year.

We should all file it under Ignore and stop giving them the oxygen they so clearly demand.
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Yes and no. As someone who always rather liked Alexander Armstrong before (especially the comedy), I’ve quite enjoyed his being clumsily outed by this horrendous paper as one of the many who are just so dismally, myopically, selfishly stupid to pronounce their drivel on this issue. It won’t have done his career much good going forward, to put it mildly.
 




Goldstone1976

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Vituperation is one of my hobbies.
In my case my interest stems from my education rather than my *wealth*.
I suspect it may be the other way round for our TV man.
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Now, now; Armstrong has a Cambridge first degree.

A Richard though, so you may have a point.
 


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Eeyore said:
I don't blame parents for wanting to send their kids to private school, they just want the best for them. But the concept I find bewildering.

Many years ago, the CEO of my company spoke to me about moving to Queen's Park. They had plenty of dosh and a young daughter. I suggested places to view and explained that St Luke's School was consistently rated as outstanding. It was, at the time, the most sought after primary school in the country.

She did move to Queen's Park, ignoring my advice though, and paid for her kid to go to private school. I just couldn't work it out. All that money when the kid would have had a perfectly good education in the state system.

There seems to be a sense in many of the kids in that sector often grow up devoid of cultural integration. A friend of the family who was a teacher at a private school decided to send the kids to do outreach work in the local community, visiting older people who could do with company. My dad was on the list as he was caring for my Mum who had Alzheimers. I was there on one or two occasions and spoke to the kids but it was hard work. I heard their chatter and it seemed a world apart from the world I know.

When I was 12, my parents were in a group from my school who were contacted by Brighton College. They wouldn't have been able to afford it, so I think it must have been about a scholarship. I have vague memories of it. I am so glad they refused. The only thing I regret about it was missing out on the cricket though. That would have been good. Amazing ground.

My favourite author, Alan Bennett, often nailed it. He is always such a great listen

'My objection to private education is simply put, it is not fair. And to say that nothing is fair is not an answer'

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I worked in an environment where many were sending their kids to private school……seemed to be the case that that if the parents went to private school themselves, they were very likely to send their kids there too, and for others, in keeping with the horribly status-conscious, competitive nature of city types, they’d do it because it was the ‘done thing’, along with the flash cars and multiple skiing holidays and suchlike. Around here, sending a couple of kids to private school is going to eat up close to £100k of your gross income.
 


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hans kraay fan club said:
We returned from living in Dubai, when I was 11 (and my brother 12). For some reason we were invited to take the Brighton College entrance exam. After smashing their test, I was offered a very substantial scholarship.

My brother wasn’t offered any assistance, however - so my parents decided neither of us would go.

I was delighted. We’d had a tour of the school, and I’d hated it - dark rooms, and a playground that was like a caged prison yard - a huge contrast to the modern, bright school for ex-pats I’d come from.

Never, ever, in the 40 years since, have I felt for a moment that I missed out. Somerhill and Hove Park suited me perfectly well.

I‘d imagine I would have become a pretty decent cricketer, had I gone, though.
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You should see it now - it's really impressive.
 








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Based on his incredibly awkward interactions with guests on Pointless, it's no surprise that he's managed to put his foot in it while being interviewed.
 


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