[Finance] Does earning 100k a year make you feel well off these days?

Stumpy Tim said:

I would be significantly worse off in my life if I didn't have kids... Obviously not financially, but in every other way. I'm fortunate to be comfortably off, but even if I was skint I would still want my two kids. Best thing I've done with my life frankly.

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Lady Whistledown said:

I don't have kids. Life didn't really work out that way what with my husband being, you know, dead and all that. But when I read dwayne's post about people who have kids wishing they didn't, I'm willing to bet that hardly any of them genuinely think that. Sure, the odd Saturday lie in being ruined or holidays being four times as expensive must be a bit of a pain. But I can't believe many people would turn the clock back given the chance.

Especially when you have at least one of them as INDOCTRINATED in the Albion as I know one of yours is. What's not to like about that?

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Commander said:

Indeed. I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who says they regret having kids. And indoctrinating them into the Albion is brilliant, I’ve completely brainwashed both of mine.

Never ever ever will I understand when someone’s kid doesn’t support the same team as them. “Oh but he just chose someone different”… f*** off mate, kids believe that a man climbs down their chimney every year and leaves them presents after flying in on some magic reindeer. It’s not difficult to convince them that the Albion are the only option to support.

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Commander said:

Indeed. I don’t think I’ve ever met anyone who says they regret having kids. And indoctrinating them into the Albion is brilliant, I’ve completely brainwashed both of mine.

Never ever ever will I understand when someone’s kid doesn’t support the same team as them. “Oh but he just chose someone different”… f*** off mate, kids believe that a man climbs down their chimney every year and leaves them presents after flying in on some magic reindeer. It’s not difficult to convince them that the Albion are the only option to support.

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Gwylan said:

My kids don't support the Albion, or like football, but I don't regret having them. They've both had difficult lives but I'm proud of both of them.

My younger son is stewarding at the match tomorrow, it's his first job, and he's so looking forward to it. And I'm so happy for him

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The Optimist said:

I’m in a war with my wife over who our kids support. She’s an Arsenal fan, her whole family is, and nowadays she’s more into the women’s team than the men’s. She’s winning with my daughter, mainly because her favourite colour is red - and at 5 year old stuff like that is important. However, my 2.5 year old son’s favourite colour is blue - get in!

I’ll settle for one each. But I need one, otherwise disappearing for an entire Saturday for an away game is going to be hard to justify if I’m not taking a kid with me.

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Lady Whistledown said:

I don't have kids. Life didn't really work out that way what with my husband being, you know, dead and all that. But when I read dwayne's post about people who have kids wishing they didn't, I'm willing to bet that hardly any of them genuinely think that. Sure, the odd Saturday lie in being ruined or holidays being four times as expensive must be a bit of a pain. But I can't believe many people would turn the clock back given the chance.

Especially when you have at least one of them as INDOCTRINATED in the Albion as I know one of yours is. What's not to like about that?

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Gwylan said:

My kids don't support the Albion, or like football, but I don't regret having them. They've both had difficult lives but I'm proud of both of them.

My younger son is stewarding at the match tomorrow, it's his first job, and he's so looking forward to it. And I'm so happy for him

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Commander said:

It’s more difficult if you have two parents into football and both support different teams. My tactic then would just be to take them to Brighton all the time, and say if you want to support your Mum’s team then that’s your call, but I won’t be taking you to watch them.

Your last point is a very valid one. Had this worry for quite a while, and then met eldest son suddenly got massively into The Albion. Saturday afternoon’s sorted. Now the other one is keen too, which makes it even better.

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Bakero said:

I always find these discussions a bit distasteful when about half the country earn less than a third of that.

Anyone on that kind of figure would do well to remember they're bringing in more than 96% of workers. If it's your household income, it puts you in the top 5%.

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The Optimist said:

I used to think having a girlfriend and then wife who was into football was great. She absolutely got the importance of going to watch your team. Valentines Day, birthdays etc never took precedence. The match is on when it’s on, you can go out on a different night to celebrate your birthday and this absolutely worked both ways.

But now that we have kids - aargh!

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Lady Whistledown said:

Ha: I've never officially dated anybody who supported the Albion. Maybe that would have made my life easier

My husband was a Swansea City fan- if we'd ever had kids, we had an agreement that I'd get first dibs on the football, while he'd get preference when it came to rugby (Wales). I mean, who cares about egg-chasing anyway?

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Lady Whistledown said:

Ha: I've never officially dated anybody who supported the Albion

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Lady Whistledown said:

My husband was a Swansea City fan

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Gwylan said:

That's very true and I'm fully aware that had some advantages (no student loan for example) but there is one other factor to consider and that's age. I didn't buy my first property until I was 37, I lived in some cheap places until then ... but it did enable me to put together a deposit for the first flat (I also had an enormous stroke of luck that I bought in Balham, what was then a pretty rundown part of London, I wasn't to know that within a few years, property prices would explode).

The second factor is that I didn't have kids until my late 40s, so by the time I moved into a house big enough for kids, I already had a hefty deposit. I think most boomers would have struggled to buy a 3 or 4-bed property, and bring up kids, in their late 20s back in the 80s - unless they had a very healthy salary.

I think people have got the impression that I've been living mortgage free for years - I was still paying it off two and a half years ago (and had a child in full time education). I had a salary that was a lot, lot less than £100k (about a quarter) and was still surviving

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Triggaaar said:

Officially? The mind boggles at what you've done unofficially.

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The Optimist said:

I’m in a war with my wife over who our kids support. She’s an Arsenal fan, her whole family is, and nowadays she’s more into the women’s team than the men’s. She’s winning with my daughter, mainly because her favourite colour is red - and at 5 year old stuff like that is important. However, my 2.5 year old son’s favourite colour is blue - get in!

I’ll settle for one each. But I need one, otherwise disappearing for an entire Saturday for an away game is going to be hard to justify if I’m not taking a kid with me.

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Weststander said:

My experience. Get them to Albion games, but never force it when then they have phases of not wanting to go (which is sound advice with all kids interests … we did that with skiing too, when they didn’t like it very young). The buzz of actually being at games, hopefully Albion wins and goals, an early favourite player or two ….. will beat watching Arse on TV. It may be a slow burner.

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