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Official Old Man

Uckfield Seagull
Aug 27, 2011
9,415
Brighton
I'm going to defend our local paper.
We moan about it being rubbish so we don't buy it, so their finances go down and they have to sack reporters thus their reporting goes down.
What if they had say 5 local reporters covering events in Sussex but based in Brighton, Eastbourne, Mid, East & West Sussex. When an event occurs they would be on it quick and their 'Live' page would be just that, our go to source. Drop a lot of the ads on screen giving a better home page. And for gods sake, give the true story on facebook rather than clickbait.
 


Madafwo

I'm probably being facetious.
Nov 11, 2013
1,831
It wanted me to accept cookies to allow personalised adverts or pay to read an online article about Exceat Bridge earlier on today, thought balls to that and read it on the BBC instead.

Won't be sad to see it go to be honest. It's a shadow of its former self just like most local papers these days, which is a shame, but the damage has been done.
 






Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
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Jul 17, 2003
20,346
Valley of Hangleton
Really poor brought a copy today and not even a match report in the paper for last nights game and £1.15 now .
Yet look who was on the front page in yesterday’s edition… Bottom right 😉
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Bob!

Coffee Buyer
Jul 5, 2003
11,885
No report as paper printed before Brian Owen can file his report. His report was available online and tomorrows Argus will have a full report and analysis.

Then they printed it too early. Not a very good local paper if they can't time it to get a report from the local PL side in the next day's paper.
 




Chicken Run

Member Since Jul 2003
NSC Patron
Jul 17, 2003
20,346
Valley of Hangleton
And heres the article about Brightons best Land Lord

Mod edit: Sorry - we can't have whole copy and pastes from other media outlets on here - they deserve the eyeballs / ad views / subscriptions.
 
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The Oldman

I like the Hat
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Jul 12, 2003
7,181
In the shadow of Seaford Head
Then they printed it too early. Not a very good local paper if they can't time it to get a report from the local PL side in the next day's paper.
I agree but whilst the Argus reports on local stuff, it’s printed in Hampshire and is just one of the papers owned by Newsquest who I doubt care very much about a report on a football match. Gone are the days of “hold the front page” or back page.
 




Bob!

Coffee Buyer
Jul 5, 2003
11,885
I agree but whilst the Argus reports on local stuff, it’s printed in Hampshire and is just one of the papers owned by Newsquest who I doubt care very much about a report on a football match. Gone are the days of “hold the front page” or back page.

If they want to make sales of the newspaper it needs to be relevant.
That means a report on yesterday's local PL game.
 


Westdene Seagull

aka Cap'n Carl Firecrotch
NSC Patron
Oct 27, 2003
21,719
The arse end of Hangleton
I'm going to defend our local paper.
We moan about it being rubbish so we don't buy it, so their finances go down and they have to sack reporters thus their reporting goes down.
What if they had say 5 local reporters covering events in Sussex but based in Brighton, Eastbourne, Mid, East & West Sussex. When an event occurs they would be on it quick and their 'Live' page would be just that, our go to source. Drop a lot of the ads on screen giving a better home page. And for gods sake, give the true story on facebook rather than clickbait.
The problem being that first of all they are no longer a local paper - I don't want to know about what's happened in Rye, Crawley or Bognor. They lost their localisation when they started to use national reporters to report stories. Reporters with no local knowledge. Hell, there was even a story published a couple of years ago about a woman that "saved" an old table by rubbing it down and painting it. She was based in ..... Bolton :shrug:

Most of what they publish is mind numbing rubbish so there's no way I'm going to actually pay for it. Stories about their trips to restaurants ( with the reporter trying to be a new Grace Dent ), summaries of hygiene scores that any of us could look up on the council website, Rightmove screen scrapes etc etc etc. If they want people to pay then they need to publish proper news - not the dumbed down paste and copy stuff their American owners want them to do to save money. Vicious circle really, publish rubbish and people will stop paying, people stop paying so they cut more costs thus producing even worse rubbish.

One benefit if they go under would be Cllr Lyons no longer being able to spew his stupid comments nor would we have to suffer Steve 'hypocrite' Davis' regular column.
 


Official Old Man

Uckfield Seagull
Aug 27, 2011
9,415
Brighton
The problem being that first of all they are no longer a local paper - I don't want to know about what's happened in Rye, Crawley or Bognor. They lost their localisation when they started to use national reporters to report stories. Reporters with no local knowledge. Hell, there was even a story published a couple of years ago about a woman that "saved" an old table by rubbing it down and painting it. She was based in ..... Bolton :shrug:

Most of what they publish is mind numbing rubbish so there's no way I'm going to actually pay for it. Stories about their trips to restaurants ( with the reporter trying to be a new Grace Dent ), summaries of hygiene scores that any of us could look up on the council website, Rightmove screen scrapes etc etc etc. If they want people to pay then they need to publish proper news - not the dumbed down paste and copy stuff their American owners want them to do to save money. Vicious circle really, publish rubbish and people will stop paying, people stop paying so they cut more costs thus producing even worse rubbish.

One benefit if they go under would be Cllr Lyons no longer being able to spew his stupid comments nor would we have to suffer Steve 'hypocrite' Davis' regular column.
And I'm with you all the way. It's just that we've come to this simply because they got worse and readers left. It's a circle.
 






GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Gloucester
I agree but whilst the Argus reports on local stuff, it’s printed in Hampshire and is just one of the papers owned by Newsquest who I doubt care very much about a report on a football match. Gone are the days of “hold the front page” or back page.
Gone are the days of local papers generally, I'm afraid. They can no longer afford to employ a few 'Brighton Clark Kents' to shoot off to investigate local incidents, nor do they have the infrastructure to 'hold the front page'. Many of the jobs in the Newspaper industry we (or most of us) grew up in have gone the way of miners, bus-conductors, station porters - and many more.
Frankly, I wonder how much longer the nationals can survive - I haven't bought one for years. That isn't significant, of course, but there's thousands, if not millions, like me.
 


amexer

Well-known member
Aug 8, 2011
7,055
Great pity. Over the years really enjoyed the Argus' Brighton and immediate area in depth news. Stopped buying when they tried to cover Hastings to Chichester and to Crawley none of which I was interested in. They then published more and more national news. Now live in Mid Sussex and at least they give local Whats on and local sports results. Look in Argus and you wouldnt know if there were any local football and cricket clubs
 


dejavuatbtn

Well-known member
Aug 4, 2010
7,749
Henfield
I confess to subscribing to their on line offering. My wife thinks I’m mad but I don’t do social media so it’s a useful tool for local info (or should be). Lazy journalism. Irrelevant and out of date photos and screen scrapes from google maps and streetview. I doubt if any of their journalists have ever been to Brighton and Hove. I don’t think I will renew the annual subscription.
 




Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,994
I agree but whilst the Argus reports on local stuff, it’s printed in Hampshire and is just one of the papers owned by Newsquest who I doubt care very much about a report on a football match. Gone are the days of “hold the front page” or back page.
It cares enough to run a preview of the match in yesterday's paper, though...

I've not looked at a physical copy of the Argus for years, so I couldn't comment but, based on that front page alone, there seems to be less of a focus on time-sensitive stories (that's the the website is for, I guess) and more generic stories that would typically have been found in the likes of the Leader (or whatever it was called).

The whole world of local newspapers is dying on its arse, so I guess it's good that there is at least something for people who want it. But it's a far cry from how it use to be 20-odd years ago. Shame really, but then life – and technology – has moved on.
 


Boys 9d

Well-known member
Jan 3, 2012
1,880
Lancing
The Argus has always been a Sussex newspaper (despite its present failings) being the amalgamation of the Sussex Daily News and the Evening Argus both of which had the same publisher. I have rad both and eventually the one for over 70 years either hard copy or on line editions. I like to know what is happening through the County and if I find that I need further information there are many other newspapers available covering specific localities. the Brighton & Hove News for example serves as the specific for that City.
 


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