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[News] Mike Amesbury MP - Rocky VIII: Backbench Brawler
- Thread starter jcdenton08
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As mentioned above, any MP who faces imprisonment can be recalled if at least 10% of the population of his/her consituency signs a petition. If that 10% threshold is reached, then the MP loses the seat. Amesbury will have no choice in the matter.
It should be noted that on every occasion that a petition has been activated, the MP in question lost the seat.
You mean incitement to derision
or incitement to murder?
I leave it to you to guess which one of the two results in a prison sentence.
Anyway, there is only one two-tier thing in the UK. That's two-tier Kier.
(and I have honestly forgotten to what that supposedly referred. Not a cake, I'm guessing.
No doubt you will be able to remind me).
- Feb 22, 2014
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The sentence is suspended and if the person reoffends is added to any additional sentence. If that is not a deterrent then all I can say is you can’t legislate for stupidity.
- Feb 22, 2014
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I would like to add that anyone receiving a custodial sentence should be sent to prison for a couple of days while the sentence is confirmed. I am sure that a first offender having experienced this would be very unlikely to re-offend. I speak from experience as an ex Prison Officer.
In the 1980s football fans whacked people round the chops and MPs wrung their hands about it.
And now...........
Who says we haven't made progress as a species.
And now...........
Who says we haven't made progress as a species.
Lenny Rider
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- Sep 15, 2010
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Little bit patronising to be fair WZ, he's still an MP and if he stands down, that will prompt a by election, so if Starmer doesn't want that surely he will let him do his time and then come back to Westminster? There's nothing to say Amesbury can't do that is there?Congratulations Lenny, you're understanding of the situation and options available is truly remarkable, but don't let facts get in the way of your opinion.
Let's hope it's a different 'well connected' source for your second one
As for the second thing, you know the source and you wouldn't doubt him either.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Amesbury is suspended as a Labour MP.
Its up to his constituents to bring a recall petition for a by-election.
It’s not suspended is it ? He was taken down immediately and refused bail pending appeal.
- Jul 10, 2003
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Sorry Lenny, but there is. His sentence automatically triggers a recall petition and if 10% of his constituency want him out, he's out (and I really can't see that NOT happening). Starmer has absolutely no say whatsoever on any of this.
And on the second thing, In the words of Groucho Marx(ish) I certainly wouldn't trust any source that I know
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- Feb 22, 2014
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Yes, I was talking about Spain and how I think it works better here. Just my opinion.
nevergoagain
Well-known member
Out in 4 most likely but still won't be a pleasant experience for him I hope. Glad it's happened, I had feared he'd come away with a suspended or community order.
What happened at Hove station?
Cheshire Cat
The most curious thing..
The sentence wasn't suspended and he was refused bail for a pending appeal.
He is currently in Altcourse Prison.
Six fouls would just get a yellow card these days
hart's shirt
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...and Watford have been going down ever since.
- Feb 22, 2014
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As I said above this applies in Spain and I find it very sensible. 10 weeks in prison is horrendously expensive. When I was working in the Prison Service we commented that the Young Offenders we were locking up cost more than sending them to Eton!
He won’t do anything like 10…..
Cheshire Cat
The most curious thing..
I know several probation officers and a community sentence would probably be more beneficial for many offenders rather than just banging them up in some drug ridden hell-hole, although I believe there can be issues with having to do unpaid work as there isn't always any suitable unpaid work available (I haven't noticed a chain gang locally recently). The trouble is that many people regard probation as a softer option, even though it isn't - although to receive the benefits, an offender has to want to reform.