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[Politics] Apple security and the Labour Orwellian state



tedebear

tedebear

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I've got nothing to hide and to be honest had always been slightly sceptible at how far Apple have always gone to fight this. There has to be a middle road between we need to look at peoples data, against the right people have to privacy. As always its the minority of people exploiting this to the detriment of the majority forcing where the line may fall between privacy and right to know. But like I said, I've got nothing to hide, you are welcome to my banal texts of grocery item requests, sending my son £20 for lunch, searching when did Guy Butters leave, how to germinate primulas and sharing photos and memories with my family far away...
 
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Paulie Gualtieri

Paulie Gualtieri

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HeaviestTed said:
Actual terrorists, enemies of the nation, or organised crime aren’t going to be storing their plans on an iPhone.
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They used to store them in draft email folders of MsN and yahoo email accounts. They will continue to store intelligence in the cloud based on accessibility, although I wouldn’t expect it to be in plain sight
 




beorhthelm

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i'm wondering how they handle existing encrypted data on their servers. if they can simply disable the feature and its all un-encrypted, was it really encrypted to begin? when they "force" you to accept the new terms, necessary to access the data, they auto-decrypt everything.
 


Theatre of Trees

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Zeus said:
This is pretty disturbing imo. Looks like Apple have had to make concessions on what was their primary brand value that user data would never be accessible to anyone but the user and now the government has forced them to remove encryption that protects your data. Even worse why are Labour hell bent on being able to snoop on all of us and erode our rights to privacy? We really are racing into quite scary Orwellian territory imo.

www.bbc.co.uk

Apple pulls data protection tool after UK government security row - BBC News

Customers' photos and documents stored online will no longer be protected by end-to-end encryption.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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I know, let's give it to Elon Musk instead. Then we will be safe.
 
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Westdene Seagull

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Creaky said:
This argument comes up every time government agencies gain extra powers, ID cards are proposed etc.

My question to those putting this forward is why do so many of us have curtains?
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More to the point would the people putting this argument forward be happy if the police etc were able to search their own property without notice and without a warrant ?
 


Weststander

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Sorrel said:
But anyone who has been paying attention would have moved their files and comms to a different channel before now. This will only help against the smaller fry and will weaken security for the rest of us who care about it.
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No. Our security services through Cheltenham HQ have continued to uncover Islamist and Far Right terrorist plots, there are 1,000's of specialists based there combing communications/search histories.
 


chip

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I'd be more concerned about how the tech companies use our data that the government. I certainly wouldn't expect any data stored in the USA to be any more secure than in, say, China. I don't think the privacy argument overrides the need for the state to sometimes require some individuals/organisations to disclose information when required by a warrant. The Snowden leaks showed how much regard the USA has for your privacy.
 




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