[Film] Huge changes for 007….

MattBackHome said:

Not sure I get this: Endgame was a culmination / pulling together of some 20-odd movies and multiple seasons of Agents of Shield & Agent Carter etc. It was both an 'event' and at the same time required homework, as per your description. Or alternatively, for many punters, it didn't require the homework and they just got through the movie relying on Antman's exposition.

Endgame is probably the best example in recent years of where oversaturation of MCU content across platforms has not had a detrimental impact on the output. That said, I'm sympathetic to the core point of oversaturation, and it's definitely true that they've doubled down since with mixed results

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METALMICKY said:

If we're talking Bond clobber and style surely this is the pinnacle? He made some great suits but designer Anthony Sinclair knocked it out of the park with the Goldfinger 3 piece gray glen plaid. Superb!

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Iggle Piggle said:

I can't deny you've got a point in that 20 odd films going to one was a bit - to say the least - saturated even back then.

There was a plan to get to the end though and stuff like the Agents of Shield was handy viewing rather than essential (Ant man more so granted). Guardians of the Galaxy for example was a great one off film but also had an infinity stone and slotted into the timeline whether you'd watched one film or all of them.

The introduction of Disney plus changed all that as they introduced more and more of it that intersected with the over arching timeline that confused you if you hadn't watched it. Most of it was crap as well and contradicted or overwrote what had gone before. Whatever your thoughts on the volume of content we can all agree it's lost its way.

I never really cared all that much about the whole Marvel franchise to be honest but I did enjoy watching stuff as a family that was great at its best (Guardians for example) and watchable at its worst. Since Endgame, it's fallen apart.

Shogun is the only thing on Disney plus I've enjoyed in the past year.

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lost in london said:

I heard that podcast as well - they were raving about Barbara Broccoli and her cast iron grip on the product, insisting for example that Bond had to be British. As others have said on here, Richard Osman's prediction was that if they got control Amazon would flood the market with prequels, spin offs, mini-series, cartoons etc. He seemed to think BB would never let go for that reason. I guess everyone has their price, or more likely Amazon had her over a barrel and had found a way to do it whether she wanted it or not, so she had to cash in.

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jcdenton08 said:

I can obviously tell from the majority of the replies here that many aren’t Bond fans - that’s fine. But loads are, like me.

And sorry to be boring and actually discuss the topic at hand, but I am very concerned about what Amazon will do to the franchise.

They haven’t acquired it only in order to make a film every three years. They want a big return on investment. Big shades of Disney’s buying Star Wars. Multiple spin-offs of varying quality and saturation of the brand. Exactly what Barbara Broccoli was so against.

Keeping Bond as a rare treat is fully in line with the character and with the Bond universe. He is portrayed as “premium” in everything he does, the designer watches, the cars, the stunning women.

A Bond movie every three to five years is an EVENT and whether you enjoy Bond movies or not, it gets everyone talking. From the casting, to the theme song - it’s always a highlight of the cinematic year and intrudes into wider culture.

I personally think having a Q spin off series, a Moneypenny spin off series, origin stories for pre-007 Bond and all the other ideas they’ll be developing hugely cheapens the brand.

Back in the day, there were three Star Wars movies and the series was considered a classic. Then they said, “instead of making no more money… why don’t we make loads more money?” and made another three. And another three. And spin off movies. And spin off series. And animated series. And a multiverse, and Lego Star Wars and comics and so on.

And now that franchise has long been a joke; but at least Disney made a shit ton of money.

This is exactly what I see happening to Bond.

Oh and I bet they do something silly with the casting. Amazon will want Americans in this.

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Harry Wilson's tackle said:

(I read half the Fleming biography. Too much detail. And he seemed a bit of a dilettante, too full of his own beauty. Not my sort of bloke.)

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West Upper Seagull said:

You make some great points. I’m a big Bond movie fan but after killing off Bond in the last film I could never see a way back from that and Barbara Broccoli has cashed in because I don‘t think she even saw where the next movie was coming from . I mean, how can you deliver another James Bond movie when James Bond was killed in the last ? It’s not as if they can suggest he miraculously survived that last scene !

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Bry Nylon said:

I know that is an iconic Bond suit but for me it is very much ‘of its time’ with the boxy cut, waistcoat lapels and pleated trouser.

Tom Ford created some beautiful suiting for Daniel Craig’s 007 - none more so that this absolute corker in a muted Prince of Wales check that Bond wore in Die Another Day


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goldstone said:

I am very surprised that anyone really cares about James Bond any more. The whole 007 thing has been done to death.

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