Let's see how JKR fares going forward
I can see it now.
"Harry Potter's Transgender Adventure" anyone?
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[Film] Huge changes for 007….
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I can see it now.
"Harry Potter's Transgender Adventure" anyone?
BrightonCottager
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Yeah, I bet Amazon will do something really crass, like bring out a model Aston Martin for children to play with...oh hang on.
BBassic
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Yeah this is interesting.
Star Wars is basically hamstrung by Episodes 4, 5 & 6 at this point. Disney has to try and make media that appeases the absolutely rabid fanbase of the original trilogy whilst simultaneously bringing new viewers in and not boring the tits off them with yet another TV show or film tenuosly linked to this one particular Jedi bloodline.
What's been interesting recently is the critical re-appraisal of the prequel trilogy by the now grown up kids who watched and loved them. For them, that trilogy is their Star Wars. And in twenty years the same thing will probably happen to the sequel trilogy.
Personally I'm just going to continue watching Star Trek: TNG, DS9 and Voyager. And maybe Rogue One because that is a damn good recent Star Wars film.
Very true. My son really liked the sequels despite my cynical, adult, 80s Star Wars mind thinking they were a disjointed pile of crap made without any real plan as to a beginning, middle and end. I suppose that's the cost of trying to make a film that appeals to both a man in his 40s and a 10 year old child.
On your last point, I'm totally with you. Particularly DS9. I'm re-watching it again alongside the podcast "The Delta Flyers", which originally started as a Voyager episode-by-episode podcast hosted by Garrett Wang (Harry Kim) and Robert Duncan McNeill (Tom Paris) and has now moved to DS9 and added Armin Shimmerman (Quark) and Terry Farrell (Jadzia Dax). Adds a nice extra layer to episodes of TV that I've seen 200 times each!
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I definitely need to check that podcast out! Already looking forward to hearing Robert talking about that time Janeway and Paris evolved into space fish or something
Unsurprisingly, it gets a fair bit of air timeI definitely need to check that podcast out! Already looking forward to hearing Robert talking about that time Janeway and Paris evolved into space fish or something
I have never been able to move on from Start Trek the original series.
Which I have in the original DVD release.
lost in london
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I heard that podcast as well - they were raving about Barbara Broccoli and her cast iron grip on the product, insisting for example that Bond had to be British. As others have said on here, Richard Osman's prediction was that if they got control Amazon would flood the market with prequels, spin offs, mini-series, cartoons etc. He seemed to think BB would never let go for that reason. I guess everyone has their price, or more likely Amazon had her over a barrel and had found a way to do it whether she wanted it or not, so she had to cash in.
Fred Oliver - Legend
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DryRobe.
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I haven’t actually seen this episode yet, but it’s obviously already out of date. But he’s absolutely right, that’s exactly what they’ll do.
- Sep 3, 2010
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Likewise, I think we are broadly in agreement
I suppose my over arching point is that the shit outweighs the decent now. Any new Star wars output was watched within a week of release or at the cinema in my family. Now? It's just another series that I may or might not watch. The first series of Andor was brilliant but I'm not convinced it'll be watched by many as people just don't care about Star wars as much as they used to. The viewing figures back this up (it's getting fewer each time on the whole)
@jcdenton08 made the point the releases used to be an event. Now it's just more "content" The writers need to care about their characters and storylines as opposed to producing generic appeal to the masses formulaic crap. Not knowing Natalie Portman was in Star wars for the now shelved Taika Waititi film as a classic of it's genre (I'm not convinced it was a joke)
Taika Waititi Asked Natalie Portman ‘Have You Ever Wanted to Be in a ‘Star Wars’ Movie?’
Taika Waititi jokingly asked if Natalie Portman had ever been in a "Star Wars" film ahead of his latest franchise installment.
www.indiewire.com
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MattBackHome
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If you want to to remain an 'event' don't watch the series, it's not hard.
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I can’t wait for tense moody scenes of Bond waiting for his doorbell to ring, and then discovering they’ve delivered Q’s latest gadgets to an address down the road, who aren’t in.
Probably captured on Ring doorbell too.
Probably captured on Ring doorbell too.
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It's not that simple though. Marvel turned into homework at one point. If you hadn't watched Arrowman and the Quantumania series you were relying on clunky exposition to inform you of the background plot. The oversaturated films and TV meant people couldn't be arsed. My kids are a bit older now but couldn't care less about the latest Captain America film (Thank god) when I'd be purchasing over priced popcorn back in the day.
Contrast that to Avengers endgame which was an event. It took way over 2 billion at the box office, it was something that was talked about and some decent storylines were all bought into one.
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It’s absolutely this. I don’t want to have to watch The Fantastical Misadventures of Agent Q in order to have backstory for the main movie feature. I hate the concept of “cinematic universes” because it’s an incredibly brazen way of rinsing a franchise for all its worth and pretty much every franchise that does it reaches saturation point.
We didn’t need three Hobbit movies, the Rings of Power, or War of the Rohirrim, but there’s money to be made and they have the rights so cha-ching.
Saying “just don’t watch” completely misses the wider point I am making about the devaluing of a property through excessive exposure.
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I'm amazed it's taking this long for Rings of Power to be mentioned given that is an Amazon steaming turd. A classic example of the source material being ignored and exactly what I'm expecting them to do with Bond.
MattBackHome
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Not sure I get this: Endgame was a culmination / pulling together of some 20-odd movies and multiple seasons of Agents of Shield & Agent Carter etc. It was both an 'event' and at the same time required homework, as per your description. Or alternatively, for many punters, it didn't require the homework and they just got through the movie relying on Antman's exposition.
Endgame is probably the best example in recent years of where oversaturation of MCU content across platforms has not had a detrimental impact on the output. That said, I'm sympathetic to the core point of oversaturation, and it's definitely true that they've doubled down since with mixed
results
keaton
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- Nov 18, 2004
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But a lot of people are enjoying it.. And if they're not they don't have to watch it. Just like people have been free to ignore the Bond books or the young Bond books for years, or the star wars comics or TV series and films they made in the 80s
Bond films - if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
3 generations of the Papak family enjoy watching the films both old and new.
I 100% concur with @jcdenton08 on this one...
3 generations of the Papak family enjoy watching the films both old and new.
I 100% concur with @jcdenton08 on this one...
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