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[Albion] How many players have appeared in an Albion shirt in competitive fixture?



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Lenny Rider

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Sep 15, 2010
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I only ask because Guy Butters mentioned the other day it turns out he’s the 575th player, two behind Gazza, to make their Tottenham debut out of the current total of 879 Spurs players.

Will ours be considerably less as they are 20 years older than us, or about the same due to the higher turnover of players we might have had in the lower leagues?
 




Baldseagull

Baldseagull

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Jan 26, 2012
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Crawley
We will have had more I reckon.
 


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Sirnormangall

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Sep 21, 2017
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We’d have had more players overall - lots more loan players than Spurs. Probably played around the same cup matches: they mostly progressed further than us but we had to play through the earlier rounds. We probably played more league matches - mostly spent our time in leagues of 24 teams? Someone out there will know the answer.
 




AZ Gull

AZ Gull

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Oct 14, 2003
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Chandler, AZ
Lenny Rider said:
I only ask because Guy Butters mentioned the other day it turns out he’s the 575th player, two behind Gazza, to make their Tottenham debut out of the current total of 879 Spurs players.

Will ours be considerably less as they are 20 years older than us, or about the same due to the higher turnover of players we might have had in the lower leagues?
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Up until the end of 1996-97, Albion had fielded 829 players in first-team competitive matches [source: Tim Carder and Roger Harris' fantastic "Albion A - Z: A Who's Who of Brighton and Hove Albion FC].

This includes, of course: League, Play-offs, FA Cup, League Cup, Full-Members Cup etc.
It also includes first-team matches prior to joining the EFL in 1920, so competitions such as the Southern League, United League, Western League, Southern Professional Charity Cup etc.
 






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Brian Fantana

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Oct 8, 2006
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In the field
AZ Gull said:
Up until the end of 1996-97, Albion had fielded 829 players in first-team competitive matches [source: Tim Carder and Roger Harris' fantastic "Albion A - Z: A Who's Who of Brighton and Hove Albion FC].

This includes, of course: League, Play-offs, FA Cup, League Cup, Full-Members Cup etc.
It also includes first-team matches prior to joining the EFL in 1920, so competitions such as the Southern League, United League, Western League, Southern Professional Charity Cup etc.
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Interesting.

Based on those numbers, and the relatively high volume of players coming and going over the past couple of decades, I reckon we’re probably now looking at a figure of around 1100.
 


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Greg Bobkin

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May 22, 2012
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Quite a few...
 




Mellotron

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Jul 2, 2008
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Brighton
I wonder (from what number onwards?) would we be able to name ALL of them without cheating between us?

I am tempted to set up a pretty mega quiz.
 


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Crispy Ambulance

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May 27, 2010
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Burgess Hill
Rogero said:
And the answer is ?
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1,213 - I think!

I took the 829 as at the end of the 96/97 season and, using the appearance stats in the last home programme -(plus last week’s Fulham programme)- for every season since then, listed each new player who made an appearance during that season and totted them up.

It is possible that a player may have made their first appearance in that last home game or in any subsequent away games before the end of that season and this wouldn’t show in the last home game programme but, unless they were completely crap -(not unheard of!)-, they would probably have featured the following season and been reflected in that season’s last home programme.
 


Herr Tubthumper

Herr Tubthumper

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Jul 11, 2003
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Crispy Ambulance said:
1,213 - I think!

I took the 829 as at the end of the 96/97 season and, using the appearance stats in the last home programme -(plus last week’s Fulham programme)- for every season since then, listed each new player who made an appearance during that season and totted them up.

It is possible that a player may have made their first appearance in that last home game or in any subsequent away games before the end of that season and this wouldn’t show in the last home game programme but, unless they were completely crap -(not unheard of!)-, they would probably have featured the following season and been reflected in that season’s last home programme.
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Stunning work.
 
























AZ Gull

AZ Gull

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Oct 14, 2003
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Chandler, AZ
Crispy Ambulance said:
Congratulations to Mark O’Mahoney on becoming number 1,217
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dejavuatbtn said:
I have a feeling that Tim Carder is trying to find time to number and identify the order of all first team players.
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I can give an update (based upon an article written by Tim Carder in issue no. 85 of The Albion Chronicle, the magazine of the Albion Heritage Society) on something that the club initiated in regards to this, although the criteria laid down by the club seems somewhat arbitrary and bizarre to me.

Apparently back in 2020 Dan Ashworth wanted to initiate an Albion player-numbering scheme so that new Albion players would be presented with a framed blue and white shirt with their specific, personal number. This number wouldn't be their squad number but the number denoting them as the Xth player to feature for the club.

So far so good, but Ashworth deemed that only players to START for the club in a first-team LEAGUE match would be included (thereby apparently airbrushing from Albion history those players who "ONLY" appeared as a substitute or whose only appearance(s) were in first-team cup matches). By that criteria (which, following debate between Tim and the club was eventually agreed to include Southern League, Football League, Premier League, play-off and the 1939-40 abandoned season matches) Mark O'Mahony is officially (as per the club) player number 1,100.

(In his article Tim suggests that there are "..an extra 122 or so.." other players who have made first-team competitive appearances but have NOT started a league match).

Assuming that the club still do this (in terms of presenting players with a personal shirt) it is probably unrealistic to expect them to "correct" the numbering system to include ALL first-team appearance makers, but in my book (and based upon Tim's data) Mark O'Mahony would be number 1,222 rather than 1,100.
 
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