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[News] Lucy Letby



The Clamp

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Kinky Gerbil

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Didn’t they find notes and writings in her possession naming the babies that died ans some sort of weird stuff? My memory is hazy, but many seem to be thinking she’s not guilty on this thread.

Edit - yes - this makes her look absolutely guilty:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-65311400
Do you not think this could be some mental breakdown?

If some many babies have died under her watch anyone would think they have done something wrong and be paranoid/mentally unstable.
 




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I think this one:


Certainly the author of the article is reasonably sure of her guilt.
People absolutely have presented compelling arguments for her innocence;

 














amexer

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A mighty difficult case. Our legal Jury system is as good as any but not perfect Just look at the Chelsea footballer
 


chip

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A panel of internationally renowned medical experts and doctors held an investigation last month which went through each case of infant death that Letby was accused of slaying.

They found in each case that Letby could not have killed the infants.

The NHS has been trying to scare Letby and her defence team into not appealing.


It’s an absolutely appalling miscarriage of justice. Heads will roll if this is ever officially investigated.
I know one of the panel and have worked with him in the past on an EU grant on diabetes and obesity.


I think his background is chemical engineering, but he was certainly an expert in insulin dynamics when I knew him and that was his role in the project. He doesn't say she is not guilty. He does say that the cases of insulin posioning are not supported by the evidence presented. This seems to be a common theme in her conviction and she had a very lightweight defence team. I can't say is it is a miscarriage of justice but on Geoff's analysis it looks unsound.
 










dsr-burnley

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Were the original 18 investigated as potential crimes, with 8 ruled out as natural, leaving 10 murdered babies, which Letby was present at all of?
From what I gathered from the court case, they ruled out the 10 because Letby wasn't there and then used the fact that she was there at the other 8 to be evidence of guilt. The original 18 were all deemed to be natural until they changed their mind and decided to look for murder.
 




beorhthelm

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the other thing is the odd bed fellows this case has made. people seem to want to find her not guilty.
 


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Start making sense :shrug:
My post makes perfect sense.

Anyhoo, let’s move on.

It’ll be very interesting to see if an appeal goes anywhere.

This seems very much like one of those cases of “That’s it. We found our culprit. Move on. Nothing to see here. Nope, don’t listen to doubters. She’s our murderer”
 


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dsr-burnley

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This being an example:

And another.


This case hinged on the idea that to get the odds of two related babies in the same house dying of cot death, you multiply the odds of one cot death by itself. This would only be true if cot death was not affected either by genetics or the environment in which they live, but the defence failed to pick up on this obvious flaw.

And remember that quite outlandishly improbable things happen every week. It's only 1 in 45,000,000 chance of winning the lottery, but it doesn't mean that the person who wins must have cheated.
 




Nobby Cybergoat

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the other thing is the odd bed fellows this case has made. people seem to want to find her not guilty.
Nobody should want anything, other than justice to be done.

I don't know what that is, but that's because i've only seen a fraction in the media of what would have been presented in court.

I have no reason to doubt our legal system. If there are problems with the evidence or any of the witnesses then she can rely on the available appeal procedures
 




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