[Albion] When did things last feel this bad?

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Balders

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Aug 19, 2013
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I want a manager who looks at the available players and thinks how can we stop Forest playing how they want.
Dunk Webster JPVH Veltman Lamptey go a back 5.
Hinsh, MO
Then a choice of three attackers dropping back in to midfield when out of possession.

What he did first half was a car crash waiting to happen. He’s not doing ‘ok’
Absolutely I raised an eye brow when I saw the team to start but equally I'd read that Ayari and Baleba hadn't travelled so what was he going to do. We all have the benefit of hindsight, there have been multiple occasions where I've seen the team sheet and watched with trepidation and on many occasions I've been, like others, surprised.

Now here's the thing, you are changing my narrative to suit your agenda (well known) There is no denying that the first 45 mins were awful, but equally when we shored up the midfield, that made little difference. So you are arguing on the basis of 45 mins of football, my argument was about points on the board after 24 matches and strict interpretation of comparing this season to last, at this moment in time, he is absolutely doing ok (imho)
 


Trying to think of a time since the end of the Goldstone when things have felt this gloomy from an Albion point of view.

I know Gillingham was a ball ache and there was some wet and windy nights at Withdean, but what is going on with our club at the moment feels farcical.

Ferguson going from a £100m striker to being sent to a direct rival on loan.

Barco farce.

Rumoured discontent within the dressing room.

The board making calamitous decision after decision on transfers whilst popping up on a new podcast each week sucking up the plaudits.

A clueless baffoon of a manager.

Never ending injuries (which I think might be down to the players not being motivated to play/get fit for manager).

Endless crap performances at home.

Loosing 7 - 0 to a #teamslikeforest

I could go on...
Delusional idiot of Palace.
 




Balders

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Aug 19, 2013
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There’s always this separation in our fans between those that want to progress and those in the ‘remember where we came from’ group who will forever be grateful as long as we aren’t in the relegation positions, and many of this group would still be happy as long as we’re not getting relegated from L2.

Both are respectable positions to hold, but the lack of empathy from the latter group is something I personally find strange.

The reality is that the 3 teams at the bottom of this league are dreadful and were never likely to pick up enough points to survive. We have far too much quality now to be pushing down with them, even with this manager in charge.

So whilst the latter group don’t appreciate this point, for many of us the expectations have changed, and therefore what is acceptable has changed, and us being clear of the relegation positions doesn’t really change just how bad this season has been, for a lot of reasons.
Just picking up on your point about the "remember where we came from" group, of which I'm assuming you are attaching that label to myself.

If we are talking about getting to a point and continuing progress as the start point for our expectations, I and others in this group we are labelled, attended the FA Cup Final and witnessed us being a gnats cock away from lifting the trophy and beating the mighty Man Utd. If I'd have set my expectation back then to at least get back into the FA Cup Final and have a chance of winning it, then I'm afraid to say my expectations haven't been met for over 40 years ;)
 






Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
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There’s always this separation in our fans between those that want to progress and those in the ‘remember where we came from’ group who will forever be grateful as long as we aren’t in the relegation positions, and many of this group would still be happy as long as we’re not getting relegated from L2.

Both are respectable positions to hold, but the lack of empathy from the latter group is something I personally find strange.

The reality is that the 3 teams at the bottom of this league are dreadful and were never likely to pick up enough points to survive. We have far too much quality now to be pushing down with them, even with this manager in charge.

So whilst the latter group don’t appreciate this point, for many of us the expectations have changed, and therefore what is acceptable has changed, and us being clear of the relegation positions doesn’t really change just how bad this season has been, for a lot of reasons.
I see what your saying, but then, why change your expectations? I just want to stay up every year and everything else is a wonderful bonus. My mojo rarely drops as a result. Some people have said top 10 is their expectation, if so we are meeting that, but for me its more of a target than an expectation. But if your expectations have become to get in the top 6 at the start of the season, and stay there all year, winning every game against a lower table team, well we might do it occasionally but more often than not we won't. So you are frequently miserable. Just can't see how that's a fun place to be.
 
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Jim in the West

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Sep 13, 2003
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The OP is clearly on a massive wind-up (??!!) - but just on the off-chance that they are serious, then it must be SO depressing supporting a mid-table Premier League team, and I (seriously) suggest they perhaps think about following Liverpool or Arsenal.

Yesterday was embarrassing, but no way a disaster. The tactics were wrong, but it was an experiment that didn't work. I actually had quite a nice day - all the trains to/from Bristol were on time, I met up with my daughter, plus an old uni-friend who's a Forest fan, and we had a few pre-match drinks in the Trent Navigation. It was 99%+ Forest, but they did a great little potted history of BHAFC on the big screens, and spent about 15 mins looking at all the players who'd appeared for both clubs. All good fun. The City Ground is a great place to go - my favourite away ground. You have to take what you can from days like yesterday.....as someone else said, we don't live in Gaza or Ukraine. And we actually support one of the most progressive clubs in the country, with a great model which has seen us rise (in not much more than a decade) from League 1 to an established Premier League team, with amazing facilities for us fans. It's pretty amazing. And we have lots to be positive about for the future, despite yesterday.
 


chaileyjem

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Jun 27, 2012
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I know this is trolling but the idea this season is “the worst “ is laughable. This year I’ve had Spurs, United, and City at home. Up there with some of the best Amex moments in the PL. And 4 great away days at Everton, United, Bournemouth , and Ipswich . Of course all sorts of disappointment and crap too (Leicester ! Wolves ! Palace ! ) but that’s a lot of decent moments. Ofc The last week has been terrible . But I’ve seen us lose hundreds of games and will no doubt see many more. And come Saturday afternoon and it will have faded - I luckily gave Forest a swerve this year - and I’ll be full of Cup hope. Again. 52 years since I first saw the Albion play Chelsea in the cup as it happens. And who knows…
 
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dwayne

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Jul 5, 2003
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London
This season is better than most in the EPL under Hughton and potter. The only amazing season in the prem was the one where we got to Europe 2 seasons ago.

Last season was good because of Europe but other than that it was worse from a league perspective due to the relegation form second half of the campaign.

So all in all. Our fans have become too entitled. And the season is much better than the majority where we were hanging on to stay up.
 




El Presidente

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Jul 5, 2003
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Is suspect the Citeh equivalent of the OP has written a similar post today, whining about things have never been so bad. Only difference is that as he’s from Manchester, instead of being called ‘Junior’, he posts under the name ‘Our Kid’.
 




Dibdab

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Sep 28, 2021
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Trying to think of a time since the end of the Goldstone when things have felt this gloomy from an Albion point of view.
Possibly the biggest look at me fishing post in NSC history?

I can EASILY think of at least 5 if not 10 seasons since then when they have felt much much worse than now.
 




chaileyjem

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So Arsenal who struggled at times in getting a point at Albion an few weeks ago ago have just thrashed city, and Bournemouth who lost at home to a 10 man Albion only a month or so back beat Forest 5-0 just a week ago. Well fancy that.
 


Balders

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Aug 19, 2013
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So Arsenal who struggled at times in getting a point at Albion an few weeks ago ago have just thrashed city, and Bournemouth who lost at home to a 10 man Albion only a month or so back beat Forest 5-0 just a week ago. Well fancy that.
Brentford's home form has been remarkable......... hang on they got done by Spuds and everybody can beat Spuds at the moment, well fancy that.....
Man Utd even got beat at home........oops that's the only consistent this season :ROFLMAO:
 


Dibdab

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Sep 28, 2021
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Lets turn this into a thread of times that were much worse than they are right now.

Losing regularly to Leyton Orient in the Gilligham years was pretty bad

 






Dibdab

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Sep 28, 2021
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Then of course the Selhurst horror show as we headed to relegation to League 1

 


Jeremiah

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Mar 15, 2020
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This is a strange thread as obviously this isn't the worse of times , even at the Amex. However, how can an Albion "fan" post that he is laughing at the result with his mates ?? It is the worse league result since the fifties and has completely ruined my weekend and beyond. The result is a humiliation for the Club and our City IMO

If Hurzeler is around to lose at Selhurst in April he will have the dubious double of the Forest defeat to his name plus being the first manager since the 1930's to lose home and away to Palace in a league season. :facepalm:
 


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