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[Albion] What do you think our style of football is?



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Hometownglory

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Jan 12, 2014
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I'm not sure what it is. The first half was painful. Much better in the second. Just got to have the right players to execute the plan. Don't care what other fans think of how we play, usually it's sour grapes.

Did St Pauli play direct football or tippy tappy? We looked much more effective when pinging a couple over the top rather than trying to pass through their 11 men behind the ball yesterday. Having a team than can adapt and play different ways is a positive.
 




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Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
18,101
Fiveways
BBassic said:
I mentioned it briefly in the match thread but I'm routinely baffled by where our players end up on the pitch.

Ayari in the 2nd half last night seemed to be popping up all over the place. I saw Pedro deep in our own half fairly often. Estupinan almost playing as a CM when we had the ball.

Maybe that's part of our style now? Players shifting around to be impactful in areas of the pitch you wouldn't necessarily expect them.
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Think it's known as 'relationalism'
 




Justice

Justice

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Jun 21, 2012
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Born In Shoreham
At least we saw something different on set plays, the delivery wasn’t always there although at last the set play coach seems to be doing something.
 


ConfusedGloryHunter

ConfusedGloryHunter

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Jul 6, 2011
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We have a lot of players coming back from injury who can only play 30 to 45 minutes. So I think our current style is to try and play a 45 minute game. This means the plan is to just kill the game in the first half and attack in the second.
 




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Drebin

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Jul 25, 2011
866
Norway
ConfusedGloryHunter said:
We have a lot of players coming back from injury who can only play 30 to 45 minutes. So I think our current style is to try and play a 45 minute game. This means the plan is to just kill the game in the first half and attack in the second.
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This was my immediate thought last night when I saw the line-up (especially the midfield) and the subs bench. It was all about the subs.

Two games in quick succession at the intensity Hürzeler wants isn’t possible, so he planned to make the first half a non-event by having three centre mids and no natural number 10.

We can maybe expect the same on Sunday. Southampton didn’t have enough left at the end of the game to see it through last night, and we won’t want the same to happen to us.
 




Invicta

Invicta

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Nov 1, 2013
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Walking football for much of the game. Sideways and backward passing making possession stats look more favourable with zero threat.
 






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London Irish

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Nov 25, 2003
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ConfusedGloryHunter said:
We have a lot of players coming back from injury who can only play 30 to 45 minutes. So I think our current style is to try and play a 45 minute game. This means the plan is to just kill the game in the first half and attack in the second.
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At home that really is a terrible plan and I’m not sure it’s that great away either. Ipswich came very close to punishing us after our very limp first half
 






Jeremiah

Jeremiah

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Mar 15, 2020
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Hove
At home the plan seems to be try to get to half time level and bring on better players in the second half to try and draw or win.

In our last six home league games we have scored 1 goal in total in the first half (Southampton) and found ourselves trailing in 4 of the other games !
 




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Hiheidi

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Dec 27, 2022
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Interesting that this plots our team stats as similar to last season, slightly better in everything barr possession.
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Kalimantan Gull

Kalimantan Gull

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Aug 13, 2003
13,706
Central Borneo / the Lizard
Insofar as a serious answer is wanted to this, I believe that Hürzeler is the kind of pragmatic manager who is not wedded to a single style but wants to be unpredictable, flexible and seek to counter the oppositions style. That is obviously different to RDZ, who was defined by a style, but it doesn't mean that there aren't things within Fabs set up that are unique to him, and we see it occasionally in our best play.

We have become difficult to score against, solid at the back, which is the building block of everything. Up front it seems to be relying on individual skills combined with an overload of attacking players.

But everything is a work in progress - this means that he is trying lots of different things out - yet another reason why a clear style is not apparent.
 


Silverhatch

Silverhatch

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Feb 23, 2009
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Seems clear that we’re stuck between the possession rich Potter and the intricacy led RDZ towards the more vertical FB. If only our 31-year old coach could have got them to be more vertical on Saturday! We were crying out for some quick distribution and long balls behind three MASSIVE centre backs - did not turn them once despite having the speed to do so. The process definitely needs some reprogramming.
 




BadFish

BadFish

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Oct 19, 2003
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Kalimantan Gull said:
Insofar as a serious answer is wanted to this, I believe that Hürzeler is the kind of pragmatic manager who is not wedded to a single style but wants to be unpredictable, flexible and seek to counter the oppositions style. That is obviously different to RDZ, who was defined by a style, but it doesn't mean that there aren't things within Fabs set up that are unique to him, and we see it occasionally in our best play.

We have become difficult to score against, solid at the back, which is the building block of everything. Up front it seems to be relying on individual skills combined with an overload of attacking players.

But everything is a work in progress - this means that he is trying lots of different things out - yet another reason why a clear style is not apparent.
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I think you are spot on here. I'd like to know if he is working out how to play against different systems this season, with next season being the one where we kick on and upset more teams more often. I think this will have to involve quick transitions that catch the opposition out.

I also hope that it involved more of our exciting young players.
 




trueblue

trueblue

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Jul 5, 2003
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I still don’t really know. It seems to change from week to week. This could be a good thing in the long run as it keeps opponents guessing. Not a fan of managers having a ‘philosophy’ they refuse to adapt.

What’s concerning is that sometimes the players don’t look like they know what the plan is either. There seems to be quite a bit of on-field tactical discussion which occasionally suggests they’re having to busk it.
 


Ali_rrr

Ali_rrr

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Feb 4, 2011
2,885
Utrecht, NL
Kalimantan Gull said:
Insofar as a serious answer is wanted to this, I believe that Hürzeler is the kind of pragmatic manager who is not wedded to a single style but wants to be unpredictable, flexible and seek to counter the oppositions style. That is obviously different to RDZ, who was defined by a style, but it doesn't mean that there aren't things within Fabs set up that are unique to him, and we see it occasionally in our best play.

We have become difficult to score against, solid at the back, which is the building block of everything. Up front it seems to be relying on individual skills combined with an overload of attacking players.

But everything is a work in progress - this means that he is trying lots of different things out - yet another reason why a clear style is not apparent.
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Absolutely this. We seem to only concede by making stupid mistakes. Usually 1 a game.
 


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