Thunder Bolt
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Is he cup tied?
Answered my own question. He played in the 3rd round losing to Doncaster.
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Answered my own question. He played in the 3rd round losing to Doncaster.
Mancgull
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Steele injured and needing an op. Makes sense to recall Rushworth.
Gabbiano
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Well that's him buggered for play time for the rest of the season then.
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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There was a report in the Hull press that Rushworth could only be recalled in the first 10 days of the window. Admittedly that could have been BS, but the fact he played in the FA Cup for Hull probably means we weren't planning on recalling him and have possibly invoked the emergency recall that exists for on loan goalkeepers and can be done at any time of the season if you are down to just one senior goalkeeper through injury.
Thunder Bolt
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It means Verbruggen is going to have to play cup games.
AZ Gull
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Whilst it does indeed make sense, it also potentially condemns Rushworth to zero meaningful football for the next six months.
Mancgull
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Agreed, but probably a higher quality and intensity of goalkeeping coaching. May not be a bad thing if he’s been out for a while.
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And equally it gets him used to the training regime and tactics at Brighton so he is oven ready to start in August once Bart has been sold to Bayern Munich or whoever in the summer
AZ Gull
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I take your point, but if it was only about training then Tom McGill would have been ever-present in the first team for the last couple of seasons.
Most likely but Killian Cahill has also been involved in the first team all season. It wouldn't be wild to expect him to take the gloves in the cup if FH wants to give Bart a rest.
Gabbiano
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A thought.
Let's say Rushworth stayed at Hull. Steele is injured, leaving Verbruggen as the only first team keeper.
If Verbruggen was then injured, wouldn't we be able to recall Rushworth from Hull at that point, even outside the window, as an exceptional circumstances keeper recall? Didn't Bournemouth manage to do something like that last season with Travers?
Let's say Rushworth stayed at Hull. Steele is injured, leaving Verbruggen as the only first team keeper.
If Verbruggen was then injured, wouldn't we be able to recall Rushworth from Hull at that point, even outside the window, as an exceptional circumstances keeper recall? Didn't Bournemouth manage to do something like that last season with Travers?
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Think again.
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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Yes we would, there is an emergency recall for loan keepers. It's why Rushworth was named in our 25 man squad this season (as well as last season) despite being out on loan. With Steele being out now I'm guessing we want a player with some experience of senior football on the bench, if Bart picked up an injury in the warm up Rushworth has a lot more football under his belt than the untried Killian Cahill.
Bournemouth did recall Mark Travers in October 2023 from his loan spell at Stoke as they had an injury to Neto. They still had two senior goalkeepers fit at the time as well, in Andrei Radu and Darren Randolph.
Another thought - if we can do that (and Joey Jo Jo (post#313) suggests we can, why recall him now instead of leaving it until if/when we need him?
Did he play for us in pre-season? - and if so would that prevent us loaning him out to another team because of the can't play for three clubs in a season rule? Whatever way, he needs to play - hope this doesn't disrupt his season and set back his progress.
Bob!
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Perhaps we've done it now so that Hull have the opportunity to get another keeper in?
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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Pre-season games don't count towards the two club rule, him being on the bench at the start of the season doesn't either. It only counts if he's on the pitch in a competitive game.
As per what I said in post #313 we have probably recalled him now to reduce the risk to us if Bart got injured in a pre-match warm up and having the totally untried Killian Cahill as the only option. Plus I believe the emergency recall also requires 24 hours notice, so we'd have the same risk if he picked up an injury the day before a game etc.
This is a move to reduce the risk to us on a match day of ending up with an untried at senior level goalkeeper even if the chances of that happening are incredibly small.
Also from the way we play out we'd want a goalkeeper who totally understood that role, getting Rushworth back now means he's got time to train with the first team and everyone understand what is expected, rather than him having to come in and go straight into the team with 24/48 notice and barely anytime training with his defence.
Extraordinarily generous of us, in that case, to disrupt Rushworth's progress like that! Many Hull fans think that Pandur was doing fine and shouldn't have been dropped for Rushworth anyway.
Cheers, thanks for the info.
As you say, the chances are incredibly small - and it would be for a maximum of one match only. Sledge-hammer to crack a nut, surely? Cahill can't be that much of a risk, surely, for just one match.
Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo
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Yes it would be just for one game but when you think how close the PL is this season one game, three points could make a hell of a lot of difference. Last season if we’d had 3 less points we’d have finished 14th which would have cost us around £7m in prize money. The club are right to reduce the risk when the season is so close.