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[Albion] Imari Samuels [sold to Dundee - 13/1/25]



GT49er

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I've done a bit more reading on the subject.

Dundee may not have to pay it if they are considered a category 4 club by the Scottish FA. This isn't just based on the category their academy falls under, but FIFA instructed national FAs to split their clubs up into a 4 tier level based on each clubs investment at youth level. Clubs considered cat 4 by their own national FA don't have to pay the training and development compensation fees.

If they have to pay it, I have no idea how they'd afford it, but they'd know it's an added cost of signing a player from a club under another national FA (this isn't part of the overall transfer fee but a separate payment). I may be slightly wrong about how much Reading get as between the ages of 12 and 15 it appears as though between the ages of 12 and 15 the payment is calculated at the lowest category no matter what ranked academy the player is at (however this isn't mentioned in every article i've read about it, but is on one of the top sporting solicitors write up).
Must be option 1 (your first paragraph above) then - I'm sure there's no way Dundee could be shelling out £200K plus for a full back!
 




Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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Must be option 1 (your first paragraph above) then - I'm sure there's no way Dundee could be shelling out £200K plus for a full back!

Apologies everyone I think I've got it the wrong way round.

Some websites giving examples of how the payments are calculated show it being based on the club the player is moving too rather than the clubs they had been at. So Dundee if they are paying anything are likely to be paying cat 3 or 4 numbers which is either 30k or 10k a season.
 


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Good move for Dundee. Shame it wasn't Dundee Utd (my adopted club up here) but at least we beat them in the derby recently. Big news on the back page and inner sports pages of the Dundee Courier this morning attached.
 

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Good move for Dundee. Shame it wasn't Dundee Utd (my adopted club up here) but at least we beat them in the derby recently. Big news on the back page and inner sports pages of the Dundee Courier this morning attached.
Thanks for that. Any whispers at your end how much you paid for him (if indeed there was a fee) - from our end the answer is our inevitable 'undisclosed'; are Dundee less close-lipped about it?
 


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Any whispers at your end how much you paid for him (if indeed there was a fee) - from our end the answer is our inevitable 'undisclosed'; are Dundee less close-lipped about it?
Haven't picked up anything - I'd be really surprised if there was much of a fee given the state of things up here. Interesting that Hearts not in for him given the reported TB tie up and Jamestown Analytics deal (though perhaps that makes a fee from Dundee more possible?)
 




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Haven't picked up anything - I'd be really surprised if there was much of a fee given the state of things up here. Interesting that Hearts not in for him given the reported TB tie up and Jamestown Analytics deal (though perhaps that makes a fee from Dundee more possible?)
Yes, that was my expectation too! :thumbsup:
 


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FWIW Dundee states that a fee was paid. https://dundeefc.co.uk/news/samuels-dee/

90K per season? Even if it's Euros not GBPs, two seasons of that plus 30K for Fleetwood, plus whatever they owe Reading - they haven't paid anything like that sort of money for more than 25 years! 189K to us and 30K to Fleetwood - 210K makes him their second most expensive player of all time, and where would they get that sort of money these days?

Must be option 1 (your first paragraph above) then - I'm sure there's no way Dundee could be shelling out £200K plus for a full back!

Thanks for that. Any whispers at your end how much you paid for him (if indeed there was a fee) - from our end the answer is our inevitable 'undisclosed'; are Dundee less close-lipped about it?

According to a poster on the Dundee forum, the Dundee manager Tony Docherty stated in a press conference that Samuels had been signed on a free transfer.
 








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