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[Football] West ham and Potter







tstanbur

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Sep 16, 2011
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Yes, no, maybe
I don't know
Can you repeat the question?
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Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
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Faversham
Harry, Harry, Harry!

An antisemite does not stop being an antisemite just because they change their username.

I know you know that!
Yes, I know.

But I know also that fury about Palestine can tip the language of some people into wrongness.

I fell out with one of my brothers over similar.
I was livid and didn't speak to him for 3 months.
When eventually I did (and apologized for my part in the debacle - I did deliberately wound him up with my clever-arse know-all comments based on my trips to Israel) he had completely forgotten he had slammed the phone down on me.
And we moved on.

I have applied a similar 'reasoning' to our NSC chum.

But like many things, it is a moveable feast, and things can change.
When I think of some of the nonsense I used to spout.....
 








Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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nickjhs

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Harry, Harry, Harry!

An antisemite does not stop being an antisemite just because they change their username.

I know you that
Whenever I hear the term anti-semite being thrown around my radar starts twitching, I am curious to know what HS has said that makes them an anti-semite. Apparently, because I am a long term anti-zionist I am by default anit-semitic. Which is laughable on many grounds not least of which being by descent I am Jewish.
 


jcdenton08

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Whenever I hear the term anti-semite being thrown around my radar starts twitching, I am curious to know what HS has said that makes them an anti-semite. Apparently, because I am a long term anti-zionist I am by default anit-semitic. Which is laughable on many grounds not least of which being by descent I am Jewish.
The posts were deleted and his old account was banned, but they were most decidedly very anti-Semitic and regrettable comments.
 




Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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I don't really understand why so many people have such extreme opinions on Potter.

For me, the facts are that he took over a dysfunctional Hughton team and slowly changed the way we play,ed for the better, and blooded youngsters (as was his remit). We as fans were EXTREMELY patient with him, but just when it seemed he'd got it right (years later, after some frustrating, barren periods) he upped and left. The second half of his final season was a joy to watch and he left us looking like title/Europe contenders, six games in. What upsets many on here is not so much that he left, but some of the quotes - an easy life, history lesson etc. Fair enough to be upset, there's no reason why fans should like that sort of thing, and it's this that makes us laugh as his failure since leaving.

What I don't like are the double standards compared with RDZ. He didn't leave with fan-unfriendly quotes but his conduct was still shit.
I'm not sure about that. I think in general most understood that words can be taken out of context and sometimes just passing comments. It was the way, and when, he left that upset me. And then what he said afterwards became more charged by how he had left.
 


Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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The posts were deleted and his old account was banned, but they were most decidedly very anti-Semitic and regrettable comments.

Does he regret them, or only others?
 






Zeberdi

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Hammers will need to make some decent signings this January if Potter is going to turn them around - especially for a striker but it’s not looking great for them: Manchester City are apparently closing in on one of the Hammers linked targets, in a deal to sign striker, Omar Marmoush, 25, from Eintracht Frankfurt and Frankfurt for their part, in the running for Marseille striker, Eli Wali, which is another another Hammers target
https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Act...ort-west-ham-et-bournemouth-a-l-affut/1533324

David Ornstein reporting Hammers have submitted a revised bid of £57m for AV striker Jonh Duran but AV still not looking likely to sell


An awful lot is resting on the January window if Potter’s first 6 months at WHU is going to look anything like a success imo. It would be ironic Potter ends up relying on Brighton to give him a loan deal for Ferguson to keep the Hammers fans happy - although given Ferguson’s form at the moment, that might not go very far to help either.
 


essbee1

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Hammers will need to make some decent signings this January if Potter is going to turn them around - especially for a striker but it’s not looking great for them: Manchester City are apparently closing in on one of the Hammers linked targets, in a deal to sign striker, Omar Marmoush, 25, from Eintracht Frankfurt and Frankfurt for their part, in the running for Marseille striker, Eli Wali, which is another another Hammers target
https://www.lequipe.fr/Football/Act...ort-west-ham-et-bournemouth-a-l-affut/1533324

David Ornstein reporting Hammers have submitted a revised bid of £57m for AV striker Jonh Duran but AV still not looking likely to sell


An awful lot is resting on the January window if Potter’s first 6 months at WHU is going to look anything like a success imo. It would be ironic Potter ends up relying on Brighton to give him a loan deal for Ferguson to keep the Hammers fans happy - although given Ferguson’s form at the moment, that might not go very far to help either.
And I'd be mighty pissed off if we loaned Ferguson to WHU. Not because I dislike WHU; I want to see Potter fail
miserably.
 


nickjhs

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The posts were deleted and his old account was banned, but they were most decidedly very anti-Semitic and regrettable comments.
Personally, I wouldn't delete anything that could be deemed offensive. Instead, I would allow the other users to show how and why these opinions were obnoxious to fair-minded people. Banning and deleting content and opinions doesn't do anything to remedy the situation.
 




South Stand Bonfire

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I'm not sure about that. I think in general most understood that words can be taken out of context and sometimes just passing comments. It was the way, and when, he left that upset me. And then what he said afterwards became more charged by how he had left.
100% this. If GP had just said that an opportunity had arisen which was a chance in a lifetime and he felt he had to take it and was very grateful and the timing was unfortunate etc etc then I would have still been annoyed but probably would have understood because it is what it is. The timing was awful as we had just started well that season with high expectations but I suppose that was Chelsea’s fault for sacking Tuchel so early in the season. He however gave the impression he couldn’t wait to get on the first train to London to take the job and his comments about “ if he wanted an easy life he would have stayed at Brighton “ still rile. That showed disrespect in my opinion and possibly his real character after he was given so much patience during his tenure by the majority of the fans when results and goals were hard to come by and we lacked a cutting edge.
 


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