Milano
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.....was no VAR. It felt like "old" football again.
Get rid of it. I'll accept the odd human error. Get it gone.
Get rid of it. I'll accept the odd human error. Get it gone.
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[Football] The best thing about the FA Cup on Saturday....
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Algernon
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So much more flow to the game.
Uh_huh_him
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- Sep 28, 2011
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Easy to accept the odd human error, when it allows Solly's strike to count.
VAR is here to stay. It has to get better and it will.
Nice to have a holiday from it thiough.
When does VAR come back in to the FA Cup?
VAR is here to stay. It has to get better and it will.
Nice to have a holiday from it thiough.
When does VAR come back in to the FA Cup?
Wardy's twin
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- Oct 21, 2014
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There were some unbelievably bad refereeing decisions which if implemented properly VAR would pick up. Personally I wouldn't be adverse to more VAR as long as each decision was capped to 30 seconds, many of those interventions would be less e.g. when a ball goes out for a corner when it should be a goal kick. 2nd Yellow card (maybe all yellow cards) would also one for me. Short decision time, clear and obvious. Maybe automated Offside added to the array.
happypig
Staring at the rude boys
Highlight for me was that Porstmouth were finished in the cup before we'd started.
5th round onwards
I’d be tempted to leave VAR for just cheating. E.g. a dive to win a penalty should be reviewed and overturned, marginally offsides so not so important.
It made the Arsenal Man Utd game enjoyably chaotic, and more fast flowing.
Perhaps a new UK Cup to replace the League Cup?
Get the Scots the NI and the Welsh in
No ET, straight to Pens
No VAR
No seeding, right from round one anyone can play anyone.
Utter chaos. Could be fun. Some DULLARD will be along to explain why my idea is bollocks in a mo, no doubt.
Perhaps a new UK Cup to replace the League Cup?
Get the Scots the NI and the Welsh in
No ET, straight to Pens
No VAR
No seeding, right from round one anyone can play anyone.
Utter chaos. Could be fun. Some DULLARD will be along to explain why my idea is bollocks in a mo, no doubt.
Interesting to read that if a lower league team gets to the 5th round, and is at home - then VAR will be installed. Presumably at the expense of the FA?
Bonnyrigg Rose at home to Plymouth Argyle bound to be a money spinner.
Nobby Cybergoat
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It's quite demeaning to the, (what seems to me to be) the great majority of people against VAR who pay through the nose to go to football, that they only dislike it when it goes against them and are happy enough with it, when it goes for them.
Most people are against it, many strongly so and the reason is the effect it has on the matchday experience, it's not narrow short term self interest.
This run of FA Cup games was the perfect example, football is all about the moments. It's about Solly March scoring a belter. Was he offside? No bloody clue. But do you know what? Offside was the prevent people goalhanging. He clearly wasn't goalhanging, so if he's a centimetre on or off, it really doesn't matter. Of course the lino may have flagged, but at least Solly would have known straight away, we'd have all known, instead of some interminable process, which despite the apparent professionalism, modern tech and wedges of money thrown at it, they still botch regularly.
And if it was going to improve, it would have done by now. We've got the shit officials we've got, and they're going to get worse as grassroots refs leave the game and the talent pool shrinks further. Let's just embrace, we'll get a shocker from time to time, but it will be an honest shocker, but at least we can get straight on with the game
US Seagull
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That would be asking for UEFA / FIFA to take a look at why the UK has four nation teams while everybody else gets one. Same reason we don't (except that one time) have a UK Olympic football team.
Let's not tempt fate here.
US Seagull
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Agree 100% that measuring offsides by millimeters is absolutely missing the spirit of the law.
Nobby Cybergoat
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A decade ago, there might have been a financial and emotional justification for including the jocks. Now, nobody would go for it, not least as there's no time to get the extra games in.
I'm pretty sure you run into a tonne of politics, from FIFA, UEFA, IFAB, if you try to start (for them) an international tournament
Uh_huh_him
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I didn't say that people are only against VAR when decisions go against them.
I said accepting human errors within the game, is far easier, when the error is to your advantage.
Had we been knocked out of the cup by an offside goal, would we have had a thread about, how much better the esperience was without VAR?
Maybe. But I suspect it would be a much more contentious statement, than this thread has been.
schmunk
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Are you also OK for balls that don't quite cross the line to be given as goals?
southstandandy
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Totally agree, but its like we have 2 versions of football in existence today, almost like Rugby Union and Rugby league.
I know it's pushing the analogy but we have no VAR in FA Cup, or the League cup (unless in the semis), no VAR in the Championship, but we have it in the Prem?
Why do we have it for some leagues and not others? I know the answer is cost, but to me it just makes it seem like we have 2 variations of the same product.
I know it's pushing the analogy but we have no VAR in FA Cup, or the League cup (unless in the semis), no VAR in the Championship, but we have it in the Prem?
Why do we have it for some leagues and not others? I know the answer is cost, but to me it just makes it seem like we have 2 variations of the same product.
US Seagull
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Comparing apples and oranges there. The goal line tech works and gives an answer in a few seconds. I don't think anybody really has a problem with that.
It it took 5 minutes, multiple camera angles and drawing of lines for goal line tech to work, I think people would probably think it's not worth it.
Uh_huh_him
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The biggest challenge with a UK cup, is it would probably take 2 additional rounds of fixtures, to eliminate the extra teams.
Getting rid of the 2 legged semi. would help add some jeopardy to the bigger clubs