southstandandy
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To be fair though we have Ferdi as back up left back, so he would still be some way down the pecking order. Another loan makes sense to me.
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[Albion] Valentín Barco **Season Loan To Sevilla 23/08/24**
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Gabbiano
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Honestly I think his future is left wing rather than left back, he is all attacking threat and no defensive discipline.
If Mitoma is sold this summer it makes far more sense to keep him around and let him challenge Adingra and Enciso for that spot.
If Mitoma is sold this summer it makes far more sense to keep him around and let him challenge Adingra and Enciso for that spot.
Yes of course technically it is our choice. In reality the player and his representatives have a lot of power as well. If a player doesn't want to be around, the choice is either to sit around with a disappointed player or to sell him. Sacking players really isn't an option so the player has a lot of power.
The fee is quite low but I don't think FC Porto would pay more than that. They quite rarely spend over £10m and I don't see a world where they pay more than £20m for a left back. But the obvious advantage of doing a deal like this with Porto rather than say a Spanish mid-tier club is that FC Porto are very good at developing and selling players at a good price. Generally for the last 20 years its been one of the most profitable clubs in the world.
If they buy him from us for £15m+25% of the next transfer profit and he manages to reach the class he's supposedly going to do, it should end up at ca £30m. But of course there's a lot of "ifs" included in that.
Certainly not according to original plans but maybe the club doesn't have massive faith in the player, or maybe he doesn't quite like life in England. Or as you say... could be all bollox.
Really confused by this. The little I saw of him I liked. He’s a youngster and could develop into an interesting alternative to Pervis. Maybe he’s just too small? I’m perplexed as to why we are letting him go (unless the fee is bigger?)Update - done deal apparently
“Estadio Deportivo has reported that Valentín Barco, a promising Argentine left-back, has approved a move to FC Porto. Currently, Barco is not included in the plans for Sevilla, where he is on loan from Brighton, having played only nine matches this season. It is reported that FC Porto is interested in acquiring Barco on a loan deal with an option to buy. The player reportedly views a move to FC Porto in a positive light. The 20-year-old, who initially gained recognition at Boca Juniors before transferring to Brighton, is expected to be sent back by Sevilla in January due to his limited appearances. With FC Porto aiming to bolster their left-back position, currently occupied by Galeno under Vítor Bruno's management, Barco reportedly sees this as a favorable opportunity to rejuvenate his career.”
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El Oporto, solución de postín para desbloquear el adiós de Valentín Barco - Estadio Deportivo
Deseoso de cortar su cesión en enero y con las espaldas cubiertas con Kike Salas, el Brighton exigió que apareciese otro club interesado en el 'Colo', pues no tenía sitio para élwww.estadiodeportivo.com
This is a big move for Barco and will be an excellent chance for him to develop but a bit pissed off we agreed to include an option to buy - we didn’t for Seville - sounds like his loan fail has convinced us to let him go if we get an offer?
Of the 7 games he has played for Sevilla, he’s only played 90 minutes in two of those games and his stats in both (1 W 1 L) aren’t that bad.
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Absolutely, no one is disputing that - Barco isn’t ready to get into Hürzeler’s side in January and needs to finish the season at another Club.
I’m just saying, I am surprised if we have agreed an option to buy as part of a loan agreement for the rest of this season - rather than see him loaned for at least one season where he’s getting regular games, then evaluate where’s he’s at after that.
sussex_guy2k2
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Some of the best players in the world are small.
I don’t get it personally. Then again, I’ve not understood a number of the club’s recent moves and have been told to trust the process, so
I'm with @Hugo Rune - we don't know if the option to buy is true. I can see why Deportivo would want that, but no confirmation from our side yet.
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Which is the point here - it all seems to have turned into a damp squib, if true.
If we have lost some faith in him, I think a lot of Brighton fans might be disappointed - I was certainly hoping he’d be a breakthrough player for us and I thought the raw talent was there based on the few appearances he made.
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Would be amazed if it included an option to buy.
I’d imagine we won’t and will lower the wage contribution requirement so all parties still get mutual benefit for a 5 month straight loan
I’d imagine we won’t and will lower the wage contribution requirement so all parties still get mutual benefit for a 5 month straight loan
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By their very nature squid are already damp so their dampness wouldn't denote a failure to live up to our expectations.
A squib on the other hand is a small explosive device for which any level of dampness would impact on its effectiveness
Squib (explosive) - Wikipedia
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Thank you for your pageantry.By their very nature squid are already damp so their dampness wouldn't denote a failure to live up to our expectations.
A squib on the other hand is a small explosive device for which any level of dampness would impact on its effectiveness
Squib (explosive) - Wikipedia
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Auto complete at work - corrected.
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Not necessarily - usually when Clubs consider taking on mid-season loans, it’s because they lack something due to injuries or poor player performance and they need help to finish the season. They may want an option to buy but I think
they would still deal without one.
By all accounts, Porto need to shore up their left back - Barco could be very helpful.
I still don’t think we would agree to an option to buy any player unless we were already planning to offload them - that still makes no sense given Barco’s potential, especially for the amount you suggest.
Yes, but usually a club that is like three times bigger than Brighton in most regards also wouldn't loan a player from the smaller club. So its not a usual scenario.
Anyway, seems - thankfully - like it will happen without the option. According to some Portuguese media and tweeters (or whatever they're called these days), a €10m clause would be included, but according to FC Porto officials speaking anonomously to some paper, there are no negotiations about a buyout option.
I'm surprised FC Porto are willing to take on a 20-year-old temporarily but at least this makes more sense for us.
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Thank fcuk for that
I was beginning to think the Club had decided we’d signed a South American dud.
Anyway this could be really good move for him if it happens with Porto’s current left-back options Wendell and Francisco Moura currently injured I think.
It gives us some more time to asses his future pathway while playing for a Champions League Club.
Sports rags still suggesting today the OtB is still on the table - so keep your eye on this.
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Please don’t edit my posts.
Porto may only have qualified for the Europas this season and are indeed struggling but I think it fair to say a Club that won the title twice and has more appearances in Champions League competition than any EPL Club (joint 11th in the all time Champions League ratings) and the third-most appearances in the UEFA Champions League group stage (23), behind Barcelona and Real Madrid (24) are reasonably considered to be a Champions League level Club.
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