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Boys 9d

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I wonder how may ICC officials or their family members will now be assassinated?
 


nicko31

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Nothing will come of it, especially with the worlds most powerful democracy opting out of the International rules based order.

But it does demonstrate Israel is turning into a terrorist state under the current leadership.
 








wellquickwoody

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Israeli security services must be so deeply embedded into all areas of the Middle East to achieve this kind of effectiveness. They are brilliant at it, hats off to them. MOSSAD is an astonishing organisation

What is despicable is the complete disregard for international convention, the ‘rules’ of war (I write ‘rules’ completely aware of how these can be altered when in a life or death situation), and just human decency. What is also quite blatant is the attempt to carry this attack out whilst most of the western world is distracted by public festivities. That is not to say it was only enacted given the opportunity to bury bad news but it was a done to minimise bad publicity.

Whilst every Jew or Israeli is not a bad guy, those that are have been able to bury themselves in plain sight all over the world. In Gaza, Syria, Lebanon etc, but no doubt further afield throughout Europe and the US, working as influencers and mouthpieces for the Israeli government, or as part of the influential Jewish lobby, or more sinister still as MOSSAD agents.

It is actually impossible to tell who the good guys are, and which people cannot be trusted. Very tempting to tar all possibilities with the same brush.
 


Zeberdi

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Whilst every Jew or Israeli is not a bad guy, those that are have been able to bury themselves in plain sight all over the world. In Gaza, Syria, Lebanon etc, but no doubt further afield throughout Europe and the US, working as influencers and mouthpieces for the Israeli government, or as part of the influential Jewish lobby, or more sinister still as MOSSAD agents.

It is actually impossible to tell who the good guys are, and which people cannot be trusted. Very tempting to tar all possibilities with the same brush.
Appreciate and share the antithesis towards Netanyahu and the Israeli Government and hatred of the IDF but please refrain from these generally slurring and dog whistling type of posts against the Jewish people, especially of those outside Israel (and especially during Hanukkah which is a major, 8 day public festival for Jews living in the West btw and which started yesterday).

Maybe you can’t see it as such from your non-Jewish perspective but it’s offensive to imply Jews as a race/people cannot be trusted on one hand and say ‘bad’ Jews are buried in ‘plain sight‘ on the other. It is also offensive to suggest that Jews are spread ‘all over the world’ like some conspiratorial organisation that’s infiltrating our otherwise ‘good’ societies.

That’s no different to those who plant Islamophobic narratives into gullible minds that all Muslims must be terrorists/support terrorism and ‘can’t be trusted’.

Perhaps you are not aware that Russia launched a massive attack against Ukraine on Christmas Day? - 70 missiles (including ballistics) and 100 drones taking out the heating and power of half a million people on Christmas Day who would otherwise be celebrating Christmas.

I don’t think any there was any chance of Netanyahu, Putin or anyone else using Christmas as a cloak for continuing aggression - I would say those perpetuating genocide or engaged in flouting international laws on war crimes, simply don’t give a fcuk about Christmas or any other religious festival.
 


wellquickwoody

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Appreciate and share the antithesis towards Netanyahu and the Israeli Government and hatred of the IDF but please refrain from these generally slurring and dog whistling type of posts against the Jewish people, especially of those outside Israel (and especially during Hanukkah which is a major, 8 day public festival for Jews living in the West btw and which started yesterday).

Maybe you can’t see it as such from your non-Jewish perspective but it’s offensive to imply Jews as a race/people cannot be trusted on one hand and say ‘bad’ Jews are buried in ‘plain sight‘ on the other. It is also offensive to suggest that Jews are spread ‘all over the world’ like some conspiratorial organisation that’s infiltrating our otherwise ‘good’ societies.

That’s no different to those who plant Islamophobic narratives into gullible minds that all Muslims must be terrorists/support terrorism and ‘can’t be trusted’.

Perhaps you are not aware that Russia launched a massive attack against Ukraine on Christmas Day? - 70 missiles (including ballistics) and 100 drones taking out the heating and power of half a million people on Christmas Day who would otherwise be celebrating Christmas.

I don’t think any there was any chance of Netanyahu, Putin or anyone else using Christmas as a cloak for continuing aggression - I would say those perpetuating genocide or engaged in flouting international laws on war crimes, simply don’t give a fcuk about Christmas or any other religious festival.
Hi, and thank you for your post. I sincerely apologise if I have offended you and good, sincere people of all faiths and nationalities. My criticism is aimed squarely at the tactics employed by those supporting the current regime in Israel.

I agree that Putin was not trying to hide anything in Ukraine, in fact I believe he wanted as much publicity as possible. I do not have the same feeling with those in power at the IDF.
 




armchairclubber

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Hi, and thank you for your post. I sincerely apologise if I have offended you and good, sincere people of all faiths and nationalities. My criticism is aimed squarely at the tactics employed by those supporting the current regime in Israel.

I agree that Putin was not trying to hide anything in Ukraine, in fact I believe he wanted as much publicity as possible. I do not have the same feeling with those in power at the IDF.

I can't agree that the IDF or Israeli regime are too worried about negative publicity now. I'd say more that Israel has confidence in its protection and support from the 'west' no matter what. Netenyahu was given licence to walk into Congress under rapturous applause for heavens sake.

Moreso, atrocities such as the one above, with the continued eradication of any opposing journalistic view (200 now killed) from Gaza, can be carried out knowing there will be little if any accountability held or attention given by western governments or mainstream media.... and the UK generally toes the line in that respect.

I see it as a big f*** you to anyone who might care to think otherwise, particularly with the timing.
 
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