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[Albion] West Ham United vs Brighton & Hove Albion *** Official Match Thread ***



Professor Plum

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Spot on. The blurb form many of these commentators who don’t watch Brighton regularly tends to be the very definition of a lagging indicator. They are effectively talking about the Potter/De Zerbi possession beast, not the harder to define style we have now currently. Of course we were very good in possession in the last 20 minutes, but a poor West Ham team had cowardly accepted a point at home
No one made a thing about possession on the feed I was watching, and I didn’t mention it either. Throughout the second half in particular, they were cooing over Brighton's movement, quick turnarounds and intensity. At the end they summarised the second half display as Brighton's "beautiful football". Everyone knows that possession tells you very little about how good or how successful a team is.
 






Albion my Albion

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You must've been fun on the Timmys, pushing yr trolley up and down the aisle ???

Except at West Ham. Stay out of the aisle at West Ham unless the Cubs are playing baseball. Then you can do a cup snake.
 


sussex_guy2k2

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He and Ayari have been our least clinical players I reckon. Ferguson too though he’s had far fewer minutes.
Mitoma, Georgino, Ayari and Dunk are underperforming their XG the most, in that order (I appreciate this isn’t a perfect stat).

Ferguson is overperforming his. Hilariously, the four players over performing more than him are Baleba, JP, Minteh and Lamptey, which will really annoy many posters on here.

Again though, I appreciate it’s not a perfect statistic.
 






Bodian

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No one made a thing about possession on the feed I was watching, and I didn’t mention it either. Throughout the second half in particular, they were cooing over Brighton's movement, quick turnarounds and intensity. At the end they summarised the second half display as Brighton's "beautiful football". Everyone knows that possession tells you very little about how good or how successful a team is.
I used their references to possession football as an illustration of what London Irish neatly describes as a lagging indicator. But it is also well applied to 'beautiful football'. There hasn't really been much of that in evidence lately - yet it still gets trotted out by the commentators.
 




pigmanovich

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I didn’t like Pedro strolling about with the ball yesterday. Didn’t seem to know what he was doing 🤷🏻
The Guardian was quite cutting: In the first half only West Ham’s Jarrod Bowen and Brighton’s João Pedro looked at all inclined to shock the game into life, with Bowen unique in also looking able. Both ran at defenders, forced them to commit, caused moments of panic and confusion, but João Pedro’s habit was to keep the ball until the confusion spread also to himself.
 




jcdenton08

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Not a bad performance, and a decent result.

Wieffer had a very good game, but one performance won’t shut up the scapegoaters (although I see one of them has moved on to Gruda :lol:)

With the chances at the end we could’ve nicked it. Like I said a couple of times before the game, I don’t like Pedro as much playing as the lone striker and I thought he and Georginio had poor games.

Not surprised by some of the negativity on here, not because it’s deserved, but because sections of our fan base are becoming bizarrely, unduly expectant about success.
 


Justice

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Mitoma, Georgino, Ayari and Dunk are underperforming their XG the most, in that order (I appreciate this isn’t a perfect stat).

Ferguson is overperforming his. Hilariously, the four players over performing more than him are Baleba, JP, Minteh and Lamptey, which will really annoy many posters on here.

Again though, I appreciate it’s not a perfect statistic.
I like Minteh he’s raw yet causes havoc yesterday we played to his strengths he needs the ball to run onto as Slot said.
He over hits a few crosses then March has been guilty of that his whole career.
 


Justice

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Not a bad performance, and a decent result.

Wieffer had a very good game, but one performance won’t shut up the scapegoaters (although I see one of them has moved on to Gruda :lol:)

With the chances at the end we could’ve nicked it. Like I said a couple of times before the game, I don’t like Pedro as much playing as the lone striker and I thought he and Georginio had poor games.

Not surprised by some of the negativity on here, not because it’s deserved, but because sections of our fan base are becoming bizarrely, unduly expectant about success.
You can’t blame them with already achieving Europe why wouldn’t they? Bloom has the same high expectations would you doubt him and say he’s being entitled?
 






jcdenton08

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You can’t blame them with already achieving Europe why wouldn’t they? Bloom has the same high expectations would you doubt him and say he’s being entitled?
We’ve been over this. I made a whole thread about it, the OP has nearly 50 likes breaking this down in detail. You replied to the thread several times.
 


Triggaaar

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Also, how did Mitoma manage to hit the post despite having an empty net to aim for? I understand that perhaps he didn’t expect the ball coming to him but as an attacker, you must have a striker’s instinct.

It came off a West Ham player before it got to Mitoma. I don't even know if Mitoma touched it, but if he did he'd have known nothing about it. No striker would have done better, other than by luck.
 














Cheeky Monkey

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Not a bad performance, and a decent result.

Wieffer had a very good game, but one performance won’t shut up the scapegoaters (although I see one of them has moved on to Gruda :lol:)

With the chances at the end we could’ve nicked it. Like I said a couple of times before the game, I don’t like Pedro as much playing as the lone striker and I thought he and Georginio had poor games.

Not surprised by some of the negativity on here, not because it’s deserved, but because sections of our fan base are becoming bizarrely, unduly expectant about success.
This, really enjoyed it. The negatively on here is quite something.
 




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