- Oct 17, 2008
- 15,019
Yeah, thought so. My thinking was the last thing Putin wants is bombs going off killing people on the streets of Moscow, scaring the public that perhaps things aren’t going so great and putting the willies up the oligarchs
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[Politics] Russia invades Ukraine (24/02/2022)
- Thread starter vegster
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Nice one Ukraine
Might make some of those in the Russian "military" hierarchy (I use that term loosely) think twice before
they even step outside their comfy houses.
The Clamp
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Superb work, Ukraine. More please.
Agreed. Falling out of a window is clean, quiet and gets the job done without scaring any horses.
The Clamp
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I stand happily corrected.
Hopefully we can get Liz Costa to hire a mini bus to get us to the funeral.
Sirnormangall
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- Sep 21, 2017
- 3,240
As regards your last few words I think that’s illegal in Russia.
Top bombing, Ukraine
The words 'Poetic' and 'Justice' are on my lips !
- Aug 24, 2020
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Whether it is Russia-based Ukrainians or Ukrainian special forces operating in Russia, they are likely to have a kill list of Russians who have/had a prominent role in the war.
They are taking the war right to the heart of Moscow. This will help to engender a feeling of insecurity and being under threat of death among the Moscow elite.
Many of them will be wondering if they are on the list. Their perception of a far-away war that doesn't affect them, will be changing.
They are taking the war right to the heart of Moscow. This will help to engender a feeling of insecurity and being under threat of death among the Moscow elite.
Many of them will be wondering if they are on the list. Their perception of a far-away war that doesn't affect them, will be changing.
Exactly.
I find it interesting that Russia isn't able/ interested in the same activities on Ukrainian targets. I suppose the main method of Russia's war is the blunt instrument of indiscriminate bombing to terrify the citizens.
Why murder one person, when you can destroy an entire neighbourhood in a densely populated area ?
fly high
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Didn't they try a few times but Ukrainian security stopped them?
Yes, a while back I think.
I guess it's a sign that, in Ukraine, EVERYONE knows they are 100% at war. Whereas in some parts of Russia it's comfy living in Moscow and St P.
Blues Guitarist
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Why did the US and UK (and France?) not make it clear to Russia that the Budapest memorandum must be upheld. If we'd all made a fuss when Russia moved into Crimea perhaps the full invasion would not have happened.
fly high
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I'm sure there are others who could explain it better but the West was far too trusting and wanted to believe in the end of the Cold War, naive in the extreme. After the invasion of Crimea and eastern Ukraine the West was too cowardly to challenge Putin which is also why they have been behind the curve in providing arms and equipment since February 22. Russia got away with taking a civilian plane out of the sky, sanctions should have been applied then but Europe wanted their gas and oil.
It's a good point, and I'd agree with @fly high 's thoughts on it.
Frequent changes of government in the democratic West, new 'problems' to solve like getting cheap fuel, globalisation (again to support cheap product in the West)... Meanwhile, Putin the dictator ploughs on with his master plan 🫤.
Scappa
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- Jul 5, 2017
- 1,612
Not a casualty of the war as such (ie: it wasn't attacked), but it does seem to reflect the rather desperate measures Russia are having to go to to keep their merchant fleet sailing. Split down a seam created by recently rebuilding and welding - or 'cut and shut' in the car world.
Two Russian tankers sink in Black Sea spilling 4,300 tonnes of oil
Ukraine accuses Moscow of recklessness amid risk of ecological damage to marine environmentwww.theguardian.com