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bobbab5

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Ely, Cambs.
Was a class event tbf. Had a small issue, as we initially had floor seats but the seats were basically child sized with no gaps or space in between them. So we got new seats in the stand (lower tier row M) which were fantastic, all sorted prior to the main card starting.

FWIW the customer services desk was FULL of people asking to make the same move

Wonderful evening though, never any queues at the bars either compared to gigs or footy I've seen there (50,000 tickets in a 90,000 venue might be the reason!!). Won't spoil any match results but it's definitely worth watching/recording on Thurs.

They announced Forbidden Door for London (somewhere, TBC) next year, and All In 2026 will be at Wembley stadium after next year's will be in Texas. Will definitely go to both, tickets were much cheaper than equivalent WWE shows as well.
Great show, better than last years (even though I was at that one) Only downs were the result of the Casino Gauntlet match, and the TBS Championship match.
 






stewart12

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Who's been enjoying the Mr McMahon documentary on Netflix?
 




jcdenton08

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Who's been enjoying the Mr McMahon documentary on Netflix?
Thought it was very underwhelming. Vince is a very weird guy, but most of us have known that for decades. There’s about half an hour in the final episode actually covering the (latest) scandals, the rest has all been covered elsewhere in much greater detail.

It was a nice refresher and summary but there were no really tough questions or insight into the man beyond what is already known. They didn’t ask him about how he and Linda have been essentially in an open relationship for decades, for instance. But then, with all the family taking part it was very sanitised.

Fans know it all already, but it’s too “wrestling” and niche to appeal to people with zero interest in the subject - not really sure what the point was.

Dark Side of the Ring is a much better show.
 




HangletonGull

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Thought it was very underwhelming. Vince is a very weird guy, but most of us have known that for decades. There’s about half an hour in the final episode actually covering the (latest) scandals, the rest has all been covered elsewhere in much greater detail.

It was a nice refresher and summary but there were no really tough questions or insight into the man beyond what is already known. They didn’t ask him about how he and Linda have been essentially in an open relationship for decades, for instance. But then, with all the family taking part it was very sanitised.

Fans know it all already, but it’s too “wrestling” and niche to appeal to people with zero interest in the subject - not really sure what the point was.

Dark Side of the Ring is a much better show.
Dark side of the ring is probably the best wrestling documentary there is
 




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Saturday Night's Main Event returns tonight (well, 1AM tomorrow in the UK), streamed live on YouTube.

Jesse Ventura on commentary, a retro feel to the whole event with various legends expected to appear, and a decent card:

- Cody Rhodes vs Kevin Owens (WWE Title)
- Gunther vs Finn Balor vs Damien Priest (World Heavyweight Title)
- Michin vs Chelsea Green (Women's US Title)
- Liv Morgan vs Iyo Sky (Women's World Title)
- Sami Zayn vs Drew McIntyre

HHH has also given Cody a "one night only" gift:



Seems likely to fit the retro theme with the return of the Winged Eagle WWF/E Title belt.
 






jcdenton08

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So... The big Netflix build up, will more people be into it now it's not on shitty expensive TNT sports....?
Not for me, I haven’t watched anything new wrestling wise really since the Attitude Era. But I loved watching old shows and OSW Review, it’s more about the nostalgia than the content now. I’m with Cornette on this, too much flippy shit. I want to see fat sweaty men shouting.

It’s a huge blow to wrestling losing the Network forever, all that content gone, tens of thousands of hours lost.

Worst thing to happen to wrestling IMHO since Vince McMahon bought WCW.
 


jcdenton08

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I tried watching the first Raw on Netflix. Absolutely unbearable. 5 matches in a just over THREE HOUR show. A combined about 30 minutes of wrestling.

The rest of the time was an aging wrestler (Triple H, The Rock, John Cena et al) talking at length, for ages, reciting their pre-written bullshit (which all sound the same because they’re written by the same writing team), alone in the middle of the ring. DO SOMETHING!

Then cut away to some C-list celebrity or influencer in the crowd, cut back to a has-been wrestler STILL talking.

Everyone constantly, and I mean constantly plugging Netflix. Referencing other Netflix shows. Introducing senior Netflix executives in the audience… twice!

Hulk Hogan comes out and is meant to be a babyface (good guy - “blue eye” in British wrestling parlance) and gets BOOOOOOOOOOOED out the building worse than Graham Potter at the Amex. Bit of an error in judgement having Trump’s little bitch play a hero, in uber-Democrat CALIFORNIA, AND having to listen to him (and see him - with not one but TWO promotional t-shirts) advertise his own beer and, you guessed it, Netflix. His beer logo is also plastered all over the mat, on banners, during the adverts…

It was f***ing surreal seeing Macauley Culkin and someone who used to be in Dawson’s Creek get better ovations than many of the wrestlers.

As far as pilots/series openers go, I’d rank this up there with “Heil Honey! I’m home!” as the worst I’ve ever seen.

Professional wrestling has one thing going for it. It’s meant to be silly, escapist fun. You can enjoy a light storyline then watch great athletes perform, telling a story through their matches and involving the crowd through their feuds and friendships.

If I watched that as a child discovering wrestling for the first time, I’d have turned it off after 20 minutes. It was boring and horribly, cynically corporate. STOP TELLING ME HOW GREAT NETFLIX IS, I’VE ALREADY BOUGHT IT. THAT’S HOW I’M WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW, YOU CRETINS.

I want to see nice looking ladies and big beefy men jumping off things, not f***ing listen to some old fart introduce us to Bruce Greysuit and Karen Frigid, VP’s of Marketing for Netflix.

Don’t think I’ll ever watch any wrestling post-2001 again. That’s ruined it for me, that has.
 




stewart12

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Jan 16, 2019
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I tried watching the first Raw on Netflix. Absolutely unbearable. 5 matches in a just over THREE HOUR show. A combined about 30 minutes of wrestling.

The rest of the time was an aging wrestler (Triple H, The Rock, John Cena et al) talking at length, for ages, reciting their pre-written bullshit (which all sound the same because they’re written by the same writing team), alone in the middle of the ring. DO SOMETHING!

Then cut away to some C-list celebrity or influencer in the crowd, cut back to a has-been wrestler STILL talking.

Everyone constantly, and I mean constantly plugging Netflix. Referencing other Netflix shows. Introducing senior Netflix executives in the audience… twice!

Hulk Hogan comes out and is meant to be a babyface (good guy - “blue eye” in British wrestling parlance) and gets BOOOOOOOOOOOED out the building worse than Graham Potter at the Amex. Bit of an error in judgement having Trump’s little bitch play a hero, in uber-Democrat CALIFORNIA, AND having to listen to him (and see him - with not one but TWO promotional t-shirts) advertise his own beer and, you guessed it, Netflix. His beer logo is also plastered all over the mat, on banners, during the adverts…

It was f***ing surreal seeing Macauley Culkin and someone who used to be in Dawson’s Creek get better ovations than many of the wrestlers.

As far as pilots/series openers go, I’d rank this up there with “Heil Honey! I’m home!” as the worst I’ve ever seen.

Professional wrestling has one thing going for it. It’s meant to be silly, escapist fun. You can enjoy a light storyline then watch great athletes perform, telling a story through their matches and involving the crowd through their feuds and friendships.

If I watched that as a child discovering wrestling for the first time, I’d have turned it off after 20 minutes. It was boring and horribly, cynically corporate. STOP TELLING ME HOW GREAT NETFLIX IS, I’VE ALREADY BOUGHT IT. THAT’S HOW I’M WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW, YOU CRETINS.

I want to see nice looking ladies and big beefy men jumping off things, not f***ing listen to some old fart introduce us to Bruce Greysuit and Karen Frigid, VP’s of Marketing for Netflix.

Don’t think I’ll ever watch any wrestling post-2001 again. That’s ruined it for me, that has.
Unfortunately WWE are obsessed with these celebrity and corporate tie ins. I guess they see it as the best way to "promote the brand" but it makes for hard viewing

There is entertaining wrestling out there but unfortunately it's not always that accessible for TV viewers with hardly anyone other than WWE getting decent TV deals. WWE are so synonymous with the industry to the casual viewer that ultimately no one else can properly compete.

AEW came closer to anyone in terms of properly challenging WWE since 2001, but in terms of TV ratings, global exposure etc they are simply nowhere near and don't have decades upon decades of history and brand loyalty to fall back on. They are also quite poorly run and have deviated from what they originally offered- which was a genuine, more grown up, alternative to WWE, to being more of a replica of what WWE offer but with a smaller budget. I would still prefer to watch AEW than WWE but I don't go out of my way to keep up to date with it like I did in their first few years (basically I think the whole thing derailed when CM Punk left in acrimonious fashion and their other top star MJF got injured at around the same time. I also think even though he was unbelievably dull on screen I think Cody Rhodes was a good voice back stage and in creative).

To summarize I'm probably on the same page as you
 


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