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[Football] Goalies







Superphil

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“Nevertheless, only rock-bottom Southampton (nine) have made more errors leading to goals in the Premier League this season than Brighton (six). Verbruggen has been responsible for three of those, which is the joint-most by a player in the competition.”

And people complained about Jason Steele’s record. He certainly wasn’t ever the worst in the league.
 




Giraffe

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It's not only EPL, lots of teams play like down the leagues. I even saw MK Dons play like that (with our goalkeeper) away to Harrogate.
 


Nobby Cybergoat

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These are all legitimate questions aren't they? (if not brand new ones)

Does the reward of keepers and defenders playing through and across their own box outweigh the risk?

I think we might have scored a couple of goals where we've played through the keeper and got all the way through. In addition the control that having possession has given us has undoubtedly given us more. On the other side of the ledger we've gifted opposition, what is it, 6 goals through mistakes?

I think it's totally fair to pose the question about at what stage does the risk outweigh the reward. I personally look at the league table and that provides me all the answers I need. But I imagine Southampton fans feel different.

I also look at arguments like "well PL managers are under so much pressure they wouldn't do it if it didn't work" and i'm not too sure. Maybe this is some kind of Pep induced group think that will fade away like so many other fads.

I also look at the argument, that the only alternative is to play hoofball and i'm not convinced by that either. There's plenty of space in between.

Like I say, i'm not calling for any changes at all in the way we play. But I find it odd that the conversation gets shut down. This is one of the most fascinating debates in modern football for me
 






Guinness Boy

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I actually thought Igor's shite back pass was as much to blame for that goal last night.
It was, but once you are out of position and on your wrong foot that's the time to put it in row Z (with extra points if you hit Jesus or the half and halfers). We weren't going to break the press from there and even De Zerbi might have excused a long punt and reset.
 






amexer

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I can see no justification for a keeper in any standard of football to consid everer making that pass last night
 




Deadly Danson

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It was, but once you are out of position and on your wrong foot that's the time to put it in row Z (with extra points if you hit Jesus or the half and halfers). We weren't going to break the press from there and even De Zerbi might have excused a long punt and reset.
Exactly. Nothing wrong with the way we play but I wish our keepers would understand that you are  allowed to give it a hoof when you are in trouble or have received a poor pass. It HAS to be better than conceeding a goal :shrug:
 






amexer

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If you want to see goalies in action look at womans game highlights Chelsea v Brighton on Sunday
 


TugWilson

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Only in the EPL? Which coach told goalies to muck around in their 16 meter area? Short passes to defenders under pressure, loosing the ball, copping goals..to retain the ball and take 20 passes to get out of your half? What nonsense..only in the EPL?
What the hell is a 16 metre area?:unsure:
 
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PTC Gull

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Suspect the OP is from Canadaland as they use the metre up there when they are oot an'aboot.
 






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