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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President Elect 2025

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%

  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 174 42.0%

  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 52.4%

  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%
  • Total voters
    414
  • This poll will close: .


Kalimantan Gull

Kalimantan Gull

Well-known member
Aug 13, 2003
13,602
Central Borneo / the Lizard
lasvegan said:
Shock, horror…

www.foxnews.com

Biden pardons son Hunter Biden ahead of exit from Oval Office

President Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden after he was convicted in a felony gun case and a separate felony tax case earlier this year.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
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Not a great thing. But you can't blame him really, is there any point in standing up for the rule of law and so on when the country has chosen the other guy who would issue a pardon like this to his own family without a second thought. In the end, Biden is just doing what the country has voted for.
 




BadFish

BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,474
Is anyone else surprised that the ability to pardon someone is still around in this day and age.

Sure it is hard for a political party to stand for law and order if their leader is willing and able to bypass the whole system and get people off at will?

Does this still happen in the UK? Apart from miscarriages of justice of course.
 


Zeberdi

Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
7,306
BadFish said:
Is anyone else surprised that the ability to pardon someone is still around in this day and age.

Sure it is hard for a political party to stand for law and order if their leader is willing and able to bypass the whole system and get people off at will?

Does this still happen in the UK? Apart from miscarriages of justice of course.
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The Royal Prerogative of Mercy is still part of British law that can change sentences (not quash convictions) - Adam Turing was officially pardoned posthumously and the guy that saved members of the public on the bridge terrorist attack had his minimum sentence reduced further by Royal prerogative but it’s rarely used.
www.lawgazette.co.uk

The royal prerogative of mercy

In the English tradition, the RPM is one of the historic royal prerogatives reserved to the British monarch, in which she can grant pardons to persons convicted of criminal offences.
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BadFish

BadFish

Huge Member
Oct 19, 2003
18,474
Zeberdi said:
The Royal Prerogative of Mercy is still part of British law that can change sentences (not quash convictions) - Adam Turing was officially pardoned posthumously and the guy that saved members of the public on the bridge terrorist attack had his minimum sentence reduced further by Royal prerogative but it’s rarely used.
www.lawgazette.co.uk

The royal prerogative of mercy

In the English tradition, the RPM is one of the historic royal prerogatives reserved to the British monarch, in which she can grant pardons to persons convicted of criminal offences.
www.lawgazette.co.uk www.lawgazette.co.uk
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. . . and only for some good reason rather than your kids or cronies?
 






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Greg Bobkin

Silver Seagull
May 22, 2012
16,302
It's funny, because I'm sure I've been told numerous times that Joe Biden is a dementia-ridden, doddery, dribbling "old, broken down pile of crap" who hasn't got a clue what day it is or where he is, let alone have the ability to make a decision like that.

Who knew...? :lolol:

Or, more importantly, who actually cares? The game's gone and this is just par for the course in politics. Look after your own and don't go to the same efforts for the other millions and millions that you represent. Plus ça change and all that...
 


Gabbiano

Gabbiano

Well-known member
Dec 18, 2017
1,794
Spank the Manc
All of a sudden the Republicans are anti-presidential pardon? I wonder how long that will last.

Absurd power to wield in this day and age, but you'd expect nothing less from the greatest country on Earth (TM).
 


Eeyore

Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
NSC Patron
Apr 5, 2014
26,380
lasvegan said:
Shock, horror…

www.foxnews.com

Biden pardons son Hunter Biden ahead of exit from Oval Office

President Biden pardoned his son Hunter Biden after he was convicted in a felony gun case and a separate felony tax case earlier this year.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
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I thought the turkey had already been pardoned

I find it utterly bewildering that a nation such as the USA has a political system that is so clearly not independent of the judiciary. That judges are political appointments, and that presidents can do this.

The US government likes to present itself as the beacon of the free world when it really reminds me of an resurrected Eastern European state in the 1990s
 






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ROSM

Well-known member
Dec 26, 2005
6,873
Just far enough away from LDC
I do wonder if this was based on a concern that post January, trump would make an example of hunter biden in a political witch hunt the like of which America has never seen before (copyright Donald j trump summer 2023).

So he is now pardoned and can't be revisited knowing that trump will pardon anybody amd everybody he can including himself (and his new pick for ambassador to france, his son in laws father who he previously pardoned)
 


BBassic

BBassic

I changed this.
Jul 28, 2011
13,208
Big fan of this note.

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Hotchilidog

Well-known member
Jan 24, 2009
9,165
ROSM said:
I do wonder if this was based on a concern that post January, trump would make an example of hunter biden in a political witch hunt the like of which America has never seen before (copyright Donald j trump summer 2023).

So he is now pardoned and can't be revisited knowing that trump will pardon anybody amd everybody he can including himself (and his new pick for ambassador to france, his son in laws father who he previously pardoned)
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Exactly this.

Trump pardoned his political allies accused of more substantial crimes than Hunter Biden when he was president. For Trump the law is for other people and his enemies not for him and his cronies.

I agree it's not a good look Biden pardoning his son, but the MAGA outrage is just manufactured pearl clutching.
 


FamilyGuy

FamilyGuy

Well-known member
Jul 8, 2003
2,531
Crawley
Bodian said:
The trouble is you can never tell whether he's just talking complete bollocks, winding people up, lying - or being serious. He has 'jokingly' talked about stuff that then happens - so how are you determining that this particular bit was a 'wind-up'?
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It's called "testing the market".
 


JBizzle

JBizzle

Well-known member
Apr 18, 2010
6,291
Seaford
Gabbiano said:
All of a sudden the Republicans are anti-presidential pardon? I wonder how long that will last.

Absurd power to wield in this day and age, but you'd expect nothing less from the greatest country on Earth (TM).
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Sadly, they can all now just point at this moment as the justification to pardon whoever they want to. Rioters (or "Hostages" as Trump calls them), Maga loons etc etc. It's a potential free-for-all.

Mental that it's even still a thing, but the President has ridiculous power that's essentially unregulated. If he wants to bypass due process, crack on
 




worthingweird

worthingweird

Well-known member
Mar 8, 2023
364
Hotchilidog said:
Exactly this.

Trump pardoned his political allies accused of more substantial crimes than Hunter Biden when he was president. For Trump the law is for other people and his enemies not for him and his cronies.

I agree it's not a good look Biden pardoning his son, but the MAGA outrage is just manufactured pearl clutching.
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Whataboutery...
 




Pinkie Brown

Pinkie Brown

Wir Sind das Volk
Sep 5, 2007
3,642
Neues Zeitalter DDR 🇩🇪
In other news, Trunp has announced the appointment of Boss Hogg of Hazzard County as new head of the US Internal Revenue Service. *

Also going by the name of Billy Long, an ex Congressman, his main qualifiction for the role appear to that of owning a realitor business plus being an auctioner with fast patter. As quoted by Trump; “Billy brings 32 years of experience running his own businesses in Real Estate and, as one of the premier Auctioneers in the Country.”

He also had another sideline business after leaving Congress - advising taxpayers how to navigate IRS tax regulations! Maybe Clarkson, Dyson and the rest in meltdown over their löopholes getting closed might tap Billy Boy up for advice.

* Younger readers who don't know who Boss Hogg is, ask your parents....

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nicko31

nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,712
Gods country fortnightly


vegster

vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,293
RandyWanger said:
Biden's presidency started with him denying the existence of Hunter's laptop.
It ended with Biden pardoning Hunter for all the things found on his laptop...
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Hilarious to see all the desperation to smear Biden via his son. All the"But, look at Hunter " stuff compared to the crimes, and misdemeanours commited by Trump and those around him is equally hilarious and sad.

By electing Trump it has shown that the ( very slight ) majority of Americans are racist, ignorant and gullible. When history is written of this time it will be endlessly analysed and the recurring questions will be how ? and why ? Incredible that a man so dysfunctional, crass, ignorant, and full of hatred and rage could rise to power TWICE !
 


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