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[Politics] Are Labour going to turn this country around?

Is Labour going to turn the country around

  • Yes

    Votes: 110 28.8%
  • No

    Votes: 223 58.4%
  • Fence

    Votes: 49 12.8%

  • Total voters
    382








Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,733
Faversham
I put this on the Labour Meltdown thread earlier. I am not happy with the Labour Party getting into bed with Black Rock.
Bit harsh.

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Crawley Dingo

Political thread tourist.
Mar 31, 2022
1,111
I put this on the Labour Meltdown thread earlier. I am not happy with the Labour Party getting into bed with Black Rock.

Especially as Black Rock are going to be under investigation by the incoming Trump Government. At least it will be anti-trust laws(Monopolies) and possibly the Rico act given their interest in Ukraine and how they have been buying up housing stock.

Then you have Labours involvement in global censorship which equates to electoral interference in the US.

Trust me here the Trump Admin will be after blood and will not pull their punches.
 








Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,733
Faversham
Here is what Labour have to turn around with respect to net migration.

A complete f*** up by the tories.
What were they thinking those tories?
Open door migration.
Embarrassing for them.

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ClemFandango

Active member
Oct 2, 2023
165
I caught two trains today. Both were bang on time.

First time I haven't had a disrupted train journey for quite a while.
Yes, that’s because they bunged the train drivers a massive pay rise, partly funded by withdrawing winter fuel payments. Wait till next year when the unions come back for more. Winter of discontent coming in two years maximum
 






Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,733
Faversham
Yes, that’s because they bunged the train drivers a massive pay rise, partly funded by withdrawing winter fuel payments. Wait till next year when the unions come back for more. Winter of discontent coming in two years maximum
After 15 years of discontent I'm sure we will cope with a winter :shrug:

Incidentally if it is strikes (winter of discontent) you fear, how would not giving a reasonable pay rise ward it off?

Also, have you had your winter fuel payment withdrawn? Or are you doing what Farrage, Jezza Clarkson et al regard as the Worst Sin - being offended on behalf of others? ???
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,733
Faversham
No because they are Politicians and by definition: they promise the earth, deliver a sewage plant and DGAF.
Cynical nonsense. I wouldn't even accept that most tory MPs DGAF (and I dislike them). They are trying to do what they think is right - albeit it is a difficult equation to resolve.

That sort of silliness is what drags political discourse down....into the sewer.
 




B-right-on

Living the dream
Apr 23, 2015
6,762
Shoreham Beaaaach
Cynical nonsense. I wouldn't even accept that most tory MPs DGAF (and I dislike them). They are trying to do what they think is right - albeit it is a difficult equation to resolve.

That sort of silliness is what drags political discourse down....into the sewer.

Opinions, just like noses, everyone has one and they smell.

Yes my post is OTT but after watching successive Govts over the decades has made me very cynical about the integrity of the members of all parties when all they seem to do is ferk up the country worse than the lot before.
 


Mo Gosfield

Well-known member
Aug 11, 2010
6,374
Here is what Labour have to turn around with respect to net migration.

A complete f*** up by the tories.
What were they thinking those tories?
Open door migration.
Embarrassing for them.

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Too late.
Been out of control for far too long. Successive governments have callously allowed the social fabric of our country to change forever. Ever since David Blunkett said that there was no notional maximum population level, it has been fair game for all and sundry.
We haven't got the resources to keep building new schools, hospitals, prisons and roads. Housing is having to be built on green field sites and flood plains, everywhere. Its a disaster of epic proportions.
The figures are only those that they know about. Not the thousands who slip through the net and into the black economy, persona non grata. I can show you a number of businesses where workers live and sleep on the premises.
Controlled immigration is important. It fills the void left by the non-working, feckless white underclass in this country, who know all about their rights but choose to ignore their responsibilities. I'm alright Jack....fck the rest.
 


Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,733
Faversham
Too late.
Been out of control for far too long. Successive governments have callously allowed the social fabric of our country to change forever. Ever since David Blunkett said that there was no notional maximum population level, it has been fair game for all and sundry.
We haven't got the resources to keep building new schools, hospitals, prisons and roads. Housing is having to be built on green field sites and flood plains, everywhere. Its a disaster of epic proportions.
The figures are only those that they know about. Not the thousands who slip through the net and into the black economy, persona non grata. I can show you a number of businesses where workers live and sleep on the premises.
Controlled immigration is important. It fills the void left by the non-working, feckless white underclass in this country, who know all about their rights but choose to ignore their responsibilities. I'm alright Jack....fck the rest.
Take a look at the graph I posted. I post it again.

You are blaming Blunkett for that?

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I thought he was the blind man? ???
 
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fly high

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
1,795
in a house
I posted about this on another thread.

This is very dangerous - bypassing elected Councillors and planning comittees.
Why do people trot out the "build more homes & the price will fall". They will not. Land owners will still want big sums, construction costs are rising & developers will still want the same margin of profit. The people of Newick found out the hard way even though they had accepted & agreed where new housing could be built the know it alls in Whitehall found against the local planners.
 


deletebeepbeepbeep

Well-known member
May 12, 2009
21,905
I posted about this on another thread.

This is very dangerous - bypassing elected Councillors and planning comittees.

No it will just mean that when a site is allocated in a Local Plan (which is a democratic process with multiple stages of consultation) and a application has come forward in accordance with the Local Plan, it will not need to go to planning committee.

So much public and private money gets wasted by allowing people, with too much time on their hands and little technical training/knowledge, to vote on the approval of applications that have been trawled over and approved by experts. Lewes DC must have lost hundreds of thousands of money trying to defend indefensible decisions made by their members. BHCC are about to fight a very costly Appeal for the gasworks which I can tell you now they have no hope in winning and I expect even the Council realise they have no hope in winning, because refusing an application providing houses on a blighted brownfield site when the Council have to find 2,000 homes a year to build is ridiculous! They should build more on it not less.
 


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