Got something to say or just want fewer pesky ads? Join us... 😊

Register Log in

[Film] Wicked



Weststander

Weststander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
70,013
Withdean area
jcdenton08 said:
Ah, no no, just enjoyed the movie and hoped to discuss it, but so far only one person who has replied has actually seen the film - and they loved it. Someone said it was a Sleeping Beauty rip off :lol: then someone asked me who actually wants to see it, so I replied pointing out it is top of the box office and is going to double or triple Gladiator 2’s numbers in second place. Then they said it was Americans because the figure was in dollars, so again I corrected the record.

If someone actually has seen the film and has criticisms, then fair enough, but this is just typical sad people being annoyed that people are enjoying something they don’t like the idea of.
Click to expand...

Completely ignore bitching from anyone who hasn’t seen it. A recipe for happiness.

Most males loath musicals, Wicked’s never going to win a popularity contest on nsc.
 














Weststander

Weststander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
70,013
Withdean area
Jam The Man said:
I didn’t have any interest in this at all but my wife and daughter asked if I fancied going with them on Monday night, so I did - just to not be grumpy.

Turns out the film was terrific. Really enjoyed it and looking forwards to part 2 and loved how much Ariana Grande hammed up her part to perfection.

I would say though, that I’ve never (ever) in over 45 years going to the cinema, seen so many people arrive so late.

Given there were 30 minutes of adverts beforehand, the people of Worthing must’ve had some serious issues before they left their houses that night.
Click to expand...

Despite us going on a weekday early afternoon, we had a row of brats talking throughout the film in front of us with countless loo visits. Funny thing was, that died a death after 30 minutes …. I think they ended up being spellbound by the movie.
 








jcdenton08

jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
15,058
Weststander said:
We didn’t like it all and we love the West End. At the time we put it down to poor seats a long way from the stage.
Click to expand...
I really hate to shit on the above poster‘s plans, but last time I went it was just dire.

It started off amazing for a number of years - but it opened over 18 years ago now and it’s lost its way. Nowadays sadly the jokes don’t land, the cast are pretty poor, it’s just all very flat. The guy playing Fiyero is just dreadful, has been there over three years, and if anything has gotten even worse. The cast are bored, the effects are very dated compared to other, newer shows, and unforgivably the sound quality in the auditorium is just abysmal.

In theatre it’s common for the director to come in at least a few sessions with each new cast to give notes, tighten direction and tweak things to keep it fresh. But the original director hasn’t actually been to see the show in London in about 15 years, despite overseeing the Broadway production regularly and greenlighting their casting decisions. Here it’s all done by his associate, poorly.

Basically nowadays it’s a museum piece, one to say you’ve seen, but I think most people will be in for a nasty shock if they book to see the West End based on how brilliant the movie is.

I actually got a free ticket last time I went from a friend who works backstage and I left at the interval for an earlier train home.

BUT… I do watch things with a critical eye and compare to previous visits, I imagine all of the above (probably minus the sound issues) won’t be an issue for the majority of people who visit each night.
 


Weststander

Weststander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
70,013
Withdean area
maffew said:
I don't think that's true!
Click to expand...

Other than nsc, I’m only the male I know who does, other than one brother. Across the social classes; my Dad, siblings, son, father in law, clients loathe them. Jokey complaints about having to see West End shows with their spouses.

An exception might be rock stuff such as Tommy, Jersey Boys?
 


Weststander

Weststander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
70,013
Withdean area
jcdenton08 said:
I really hate to shit on the above poster‘s plans, but last time I went it was just dire.

It started off amazing for a number of years - but it opened over 18 years ago now and it’s lost its way. Nowadays sadly the jokes don’t land, the cast are pretty poor, it’s just all very flat. The guy playing Fiyero is just dreadful, has been there over three years, and if anything has gotten even worse. The cast are bored, the effects are very dated compared to other, newer shows, and unforgivably the sound quality in the auditorium is just abysmal.

In theatre it’s common for the director to come in at least a few sessions with each new cast to give notes, tighten direction and tweak things to keep it fresh. But the original director hasn’t actually been to see the show in London in about 15 years, despite overseeing the Broadway production regularly and greenlighting their casting decisions. Here it’s all done by his associate, poorly.

Basically nowadays it’s a museum piece, one to say you’ve seen, but I think most people will be in for a nasty shock if they book to see the West End based on how brilliant the movie is.

I actually got a free ticket last time I went from a friend who works backstage and I left at the interval for an earlier train home.

BUT… I do watch things with a critical eye and compare to previous visits, I imagine all of the above (probably minus the sound issues) won’t be an issue for the majority of people who visit each night.
Click to expand...

Any West End shows you’ve seen last 20 years that you adore?
 




jcdenton08

jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
15,058
Weststander said:
Other than nsc, I’m only the male I know who does, other than one brother. Across the social classes; my Dad, siblings, son, father in law, clients loathe them. Jokey complaints about having to see West End shows with their spouses.

An exception might be rock stuff such as Tommy, Jersey Boys?
Click to expand...
I laugh when blokes complain “it’s stupid how they just burst into song” but are absolutely fine when they burst into songs they already know and like.
 


jcdenton08

jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
15,058
Weststander said:
Any West End shows you’ve seen last 20 years that you adore?
Click to expand...
Les Mis will always be my number one. Consistently brilliant, sky high standards, they cast it superbly and rehearse often to keep it fresh and it really shows. The stage production is infinitely better than the film in this case, the inverse of Wicked.
 


Weststander

Weststander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
70,013
Withdean area
jcdenton08 said:
I laugh when blokes complain “it’s stupid how they just burst into song” but are absolutely fine when they burst into songs they already know and like.
Click to expand...

As a boy I hated musicals …. I think of Saturday afternoons with just three TV channels, my mum watching a Busby Berkeley or Gene Kelly movies. Years later I realised these people were geniuses and you become far more broad minded about music.
 
Last edited:




A1X

A1X

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Sep 1, 2017
20,857
Deepest, darkest Sussex
Saw the stage show about 10 years ago and it was the most turgid crap I’ve ever seen in the West End.

That’s not me being anti-musicals BTW, seen many of them and enjoyed many of them but this? Terrible. Poor plot, terribly acted, the whole thing felt like a waste of two hours.

Not rushing out to see the film as a result.
 


Weststander

Weststander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
70,013
Withdean area
jcdenton08 said:
Les Mis will always be my number one. Consistently brilliant, sky high standards, they cast it superbly and rehearse often to keep it fresh and it really shows. The stage production is infinitely better than the film in this case, the inverse of Wicked.
Click to expand...

Bring Him Home … even typing that, goosebumps.

We also love Phantom, a highlight was seeing it on Broadway in 2022.
 


jcdenton08

jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
15,058
Weststander said:
As a boy I hated musicals …. I think of Saturday afternoons with just three TV channels, my mum watching a Busby Berkeley or Gene Kelly movie. Years later I realised these people were geniuses and you become far more broad minded about music.
Click to expand...
And just to address the elephant in the room bluntly; it is not a gay pastime to watch a musical and enjoy it. Most blokes go with their Mrs, then have a nice dinner and go home and share a bed. If you shag blokes, that’s quite gay, but watching a show or film for a couple of hours which doesn’t have wars or fast cars isn’t.
 


jcdenton08

jcdenton08

Offended Liver Sausage
NSC Patron
Oct 17, 2008
15,058
Weststander said:
Bring Him Home … even typing that, goosebumps.

We also love Phantom, a highlight was seeing it on Broadway in 2022.
Click to expand...
Phantom is incredible, you were lucky to see it before it closed on Broadway! Incredible stagecraft.
 




Weststander

Weststander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
70,013
Withdean area
jcdenton08 said:
Phantom is incredible, you were lucky to see it before it closed on Broadway! Incredible stagecraft.
Click to expand...

We were in Manhattan this April, Tommy took my fancy, but only I would’ve liked it. I love that music so much, my Dad had the vinyl. But a rubbish seat up in the gods was something like $400 last minute. Fck that for a game of soldiers.
 


Weststander

Weststander

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Aug 25, 2011
70,013
Withdean area
jcdenton08 said:
And just to address the elephant in the room bluntly; it is not a gay pastime to watch a musical and enjoy it. Most blokes go with their Mrs, then have a nice dinner and go home and share a bed. If you shag blokes, that’s quite gay, but watching a show or film for a couple of hours which doesn’t have wars or fast cars isn’t.
Click to expand...

I did see that debate on Reddit.
 


You must log in or register to reply here.
Albion and Premier League latest from Sky Sports

Share this page


Top
Link Here