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[News] Farmers
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ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
Just doff your cap at the landowners and know your place.
Yes - okay. 'Payments direct from the government for maintaining the land.' Or 'Direct Government assistance to farmers'
'Subsidy' to most of us - pretty much the same thing; just for maintaining their land in a different way.
But if we take it that 'farmers' are now being 'paid' by the government for environmental measures and the public goods - it puts a bit more perspective on all their recent comments about 'we have to be treated specially because we are feeding the country', and so on.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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as far as i can tell it's the same. there's some minor detail different between agricultre and business relief but broadly the same. the issue seems to be farmers encounter the IHT rule more because they farm well past retirement until they drop. possibly to avoid capital gains during their lifetime that other business are more content to accept.
RandyWanger
Je suis rôti de boeuf
Everyone equally poor (except the ruling elite)
Assume you are wanting the royals to pay their fair share? Hugh Grosvenor was let off with a 4 billion that should have been taxed.
nicko31
Well-known member
You forgot the post Brexit trade deals allowing sub-standard products flood our market at knockdown prices.
That would be worth protesting about seeing as it might actually effect farmers who are alive.
Deference UK continues...
dsr-burnley
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- Aug 15, 2014
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The reason farmers will suffer IHT at a rate way beyond they can pay, is because 80% and more of the value of their land is purely speculative value, not its value as farmland.
The original IHT exemption was to ensure that farmland should remain farmland as far as possible. The effect of this policy, even if it wasn't the purpose of it, will be to force people to find more profitable uses for the land, rather than farming.
Funny but I don’t recall many of those in here saying we should be more concerned for the farmers also opposing Brexit, which has done more damage to farming than this ever could?
Or have they only started appreciating farmers in the last few weeks?
Or have they only started appreciating farmers in the last few weeks?
nicko31
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How Boris Johnson sold out Britain’s farmers over dinner with the Australian PM
As the UK-Australia trade deal comes into force, those close to the negotiations reflect on their dramatic — and farcical — climax.
www.politico.eu
After three intensive hours of talks the dinner was reaching a “crescendo,” the former Australian official quoted above said, with the Aussies pressing Johnson to give them what they wanted on beef.
To their amazement, Johnson gave way on tariffs and product weights. Brandis, the high commissioner, moved like a flash, writing down Johnson's pledge on a piece of paper and then excusing himself to go to the washroom. On his way to the toilet he handed the paper to an aide, the same former Australian official added.
Encouraging businesses to be more profitable surely isn’t a bad thing is it? I hadn’t thought of this before but it’s quite a smart move by Labour. Farmer makes more dosh, HMRC get their cut, much needed public services get looked after. Win, win, win.Thanks for highlighting this.
Friday night beckons….on this positive note….have a good one everyone.
BrightonCottager
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Not according to the Home Builders Federation
Terry Butcher Tribute Act
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- Aug 18, 2013
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Absolutely astonishing that a LABOUR Government can be so shit at managing the PR game that there's 10000 f***ing farmers protesting the streets of Westminster and they can still be getting defended.
Brexit and Covid have absolutely warped people's mind. Especially people who read the Sun, Mail or Guardian
Brexit and Covid have absolutely warped people's mind. Especially people who read the Sun, Mail or Guardian
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Lord Rothermere owns the Daily Mail and many acres in Somerset.
The ten landowners who own one-sixth of Dorset
Image: The Cerne Abbas Giant, owned by the National Trust. Photo by Pete Harlow, Wikimedia Commons (Creative Commons licence CC BY-SA 3.0). This post is by Guy Shrubsole. Updated 9th Feb 2020 with…
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Terry Butcher Tribute Act
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- Aug 18, 2013
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Yep and Keir Starmer runs the country. It's an absolute shit show. Farmers protesting a Labour government after less than 6 months in charge. All on top of the perception of them attacking the pensioners.Lord Rothermere owns the Daily Mail and many acres in Somerset.
The ten landowners who own one-sixth of Dorset
Image: The Cerne Abbas Giant, owned by the National Trust. Photo by Pete Harlow, Wikimedia Commons (Creative Commons licence CC BY-SA 3.0). This post is by Guy Shrubsole. Updated 9th Feb 2020 with…
It's embarrassing to watch as someone who voted for them.
Or maybe it will lead to farmland being valued properly as farmland.
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Should of been.
Just because he wasn't isn't a get out of tax payment-free card for farmers. Why not me? I'd like to pay no tax.
And yes, I would like fries with it.
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- #537
Are you embarrassed to watch the embarrassing protesters, or are you embarrassed with the fact their is protesting?
Asking for a friend (who would be embarrassed to read the Daily Fail)
Wait…did you think farmers were somehow a natural Labour constituency?
What do you think can be done with all that land by the farmer instead, and are you happy to further increase food imports (and obviously pay more) to compensate ?
Curious Orange
Punxsatawney Phil
Worth a watch.