Dave the hatosaurus
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[News] John Prescott RIP
- Thread starter Guinness Boy
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I was going to post the same. In fact Prescott, Benn and Thatcher all changed. Thatcher came to disagree with her party, changed and subsequently changed her party, shredding the post-war consensus. Benn was a good little minister in the 60s, till he fell in love with his own cleverness. Prescott was prepared to modernize his outlook in backing young Mr Tony, and understood that without compromise you don't become the government, and that when in government is always better to seek the greater good than insist on promoting a doctrine and massaging one's ego.
(I have never had much faith in @Giraffe 's political insights, and have no reason to change my view now
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Common as Mook
Not Posh as Fook
- Jul 26, 2004
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Nope, not me. Just someone who thinks that the life of innocent Iraqis deserves some sort of recognition. Appreciate that seems to be a niche opinion, but I'm pretty comfortable with it
Fair enough,. Not sure that a Prescott RIP thread is the best place to raise this however, if you were hoping to garner support for your chosen cause.
Silly comment. Why?
Starmer has in fact copied Blair by having a 'person of the people' (with a bit of grit and a flappy mouth) as deputy.
I am frankly disappointed that all the sniping on this thread has come from the left. It is as if the left (well, left of me, a Labour party member) resent the success of Blair and Prescott achieving the art of the possible.
That's more like it
Common as Mook
Not Posh as Fook
- Jul 26, 2004
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Prominent public figures who have been directly responsible for catastrophic loss of life shouldn't have that whitewashed. If anything, it's the perfect time to present a balanced view. Same for Thatcher, same for all.
Indeed. Poor judgement from her that was impossible to remedy because she never listened to anyone.
Directly, though. And perspective, though. And time and place, though.
But do carry on. Someone somewhere is bound to agree with you.
And the strength of single-mindedness eventually (always) becomes a weakness.
And as you noted, the exact opposite of Prescott. He was perhaps the ultimate team player
On the contrary, Blair was an excellent politician, as was Prescott, and together they achieved some remarkable success.
But, that first term Labour cabinet had some very astute and talented people in it.
Mo Mowlem Claire Short, Robin Cook, Jack Straw, Frank Dobson, Milburn, Brown.
I personally didn’t agree with all that transpired, but they started very well.
Common as Mook
Not Posh as Fook
- Jul 26, 2004
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Dont you worry, about that sunshine. I will.
- Oct 20, 2022
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Inappropriate for you to be airing your negative views about a Politician on his RIP thread - take it elsewhere.
JP was one of one of a dying breed of conviction Politicians who garnered respect from both sides of the Aisle
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Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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A shitty binfest on an RIP thread relating to a great friend of the Albion? Really? 
Tom Hark Preston Park
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- Jul 6, 2003
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I'll always cherish how JP signed the back of my ST at Falmer station while we were waiting for a train back into town. Even whipped out his own magic marker pen when my cheapo biro just skidded over the surface. And when I explained to ticket office next home game they replaced it free of charge. Good times, good people 
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This.A shitty binfest on an RIP thread relating to a great friend of the Albion? Really?
There are about 6 other threads on which you can bitch about Labour past and present. This isn't one of them.
Knock it off and show some respect. If you didn't like him, despite what he did for the club, then put this thread on ignore.
Thanks
- Oct 20, 2022
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Agree as I said above THPP’s post - take it elsewhere
- Apr 5, 2014
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Quite. And the idea that he was 'left' by some here is misguided. It was him who fronted the New Labour philosophy and got full nationalisation off the agenda with a famous conference speech.
But let's move away from that. All you say is correct and he will go down in Albion folklore. He was instrumental in us getting the ground. He was also a political heavyweight, appropriate given his boxing background and the egg incident. I'm a passive man, but I fully understood what happened there. Above all he was human like the rest of us.
RIP- he went the full distance and was a good man of conviction. Genuinely a sad RIP.
So had to hear he had dementia. It's hard to fathom. So cruel.