BBassic
I changed this.
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Bloody experts coming on here talking sense with their knowledge and applied experience. Don't you know we voted to not have to listen to experts back in 2016?
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[Politics] WWIII
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Cheek of it.
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
Sorry my bad.
Certainly not an expert but the principles haven’t changed all that much since I served.
It makes my pee boil at how the senior service has been decimated over the last 50 years , and us an island nation
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Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
you can blame the Crabs (RAF) for that.It makes my pee boil at how the senior service has been decimated over the last 50 years , and us an island nation
- Aug 8, 2005
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What I find odd about this, is they have waited until Trump has been elected to escalate this. Trump was clearly going to bring this to an end so Biden and Two Tier have decided to ramp it up. How is that in the interests of the US or UK? Really odd. It also highlights what a shambles the US is. When we have an election, the people speak and the next day the PM who won is in power. In the US they have voted for change and the old man is still there to carry on making crazy decisions until January. Bizarre way to run the most powerful country in the world!
jackalbion
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Was he?
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During the Falklands Hermes and Invincible were held miles off the islands because had either been lost the U.K. land forces would have been without air cover, it was sketchy as it was. In the amphibious operations there were Intrepid and Fearless, these were the 2 ships that were used for that purpose as designed.
Neither POW or QE were designed for amphibious operations as both Bulwark and Albion were operational. Retiring the 2 landing docks removes the independent amphibious capability of the U.K. armed forces. QE and POW are not taking their place.
As I said earlier if we can’t afford £500m to keep that capability whilst bankrolling Ukraine and hundreds of thousands of chancers in hotels to the tune of billions the Govt is as incoherent as your belief that aircraft carriers costing billions with billions of pound of aircraft will be used for amphibious landings.
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
The quickest method of getting feet on the ground is by helicopter. Landing craft are great but weather conditions, sea conditions can screw up an amphibious landing. The vast majority of troops landed were by helicopter. (846 and 845 Nas with elements made up from 707 and a couple of pinger squadrons).
The QE and POW will do whatever is needed. major difference between them and the amphibious ships are landing craft and the world will not end if these are not available.
At the end of the day the task is to get men and kit from point A to point B as quickly as possible with screwing up. each year there is such an exercise in Norway and that has worked perfectly well well for many a year without specially designed amphibious ships.
granted they are specifically designed for the job BUT there are perfectly acceptable substitutes.
if I can dig it out i’ll post a photo of HMS Hermes, 846 and 845 Nas and 40 Commando being shit at an amphibious landing …