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- Thread starter Harry Wilson's tackle
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Indeed.
Sainsbury often sells asparagus from Peru. And I thought Paddington was a long way away.
The most sustainable green produce in my neck of the woods, however, is not Macknade's, but Tackle's garden. Specifically my asparagus patch. More than 450 spears this year. At between 50P and a quid a spear, well you can do the maths.
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That's the 'when'. But there is no need to add the reason why
Rdodge30
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- Dec 30, 2022
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Because it’s Labour that have reduced funding subsidies by 79% and put in place the inheritance tax that means they will lose their farms. You talk about education why on earth do you think it is cheaper to fly in food ? Lack of necessary regulations, animal welfare and decent wages might be it
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,991
Just seen Clarkson's interview.
Fair play to coming out to support the farmers, but to talk to Victoria Derbyshire (and about her employer) like that.
Clarkson made the BBC millions, but they paid him millions too.
Apparently he made the story up about tax because the BBC "hates" shooting
Fair play to coming out to support the farmers, but to talk to Victoria Derbyshire (and about her employer) like that.
Clarkson made the BBC millions, but they paid him millions too.
Apparently he made the story up about tax because the BBC "hates" shooting
There's so much ignorance on here sometimes.
Many of which are not viable.He claims farms under 100 acres are not viable yet half of all farms in uk are under 20 hectares (about 50 acres).
Many are owned by people with other jobs and are hobby farmers
Cordwainer
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- Jul 30, 2023
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Thanks..adds a bit of context!
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Your first statement is false. Labour have not reduced subsidies by 79%. Nothing remotely close.
As for the rest.... yes I know why it is cheaper to fly in food. The same reason that it is cheaper to buy clothes made by children in the far East.
Are you in favour of cheap food and clothes....or not?
I am not, but I can afford to pay extra. Put it to a vote and I can guarantee how the nation would respond.
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Yes - he has this in there.
Almost precisely what Reeves is doing!
They did mobilize twice before. Once when the fuel tax went up - funnily enough under Labour (Blair), and again as the 'Countryside Alliance' regarding hunting and other stuff. Funnily enough that was when Labour were in power as well. I don't recall any protests under the Tories - but see below.....
.....Thatcher. See above re protests!
Are you John Clare?
The biggest shake-up and potential reduction in subsidies is because of the post-Brexit loss of EU subsidy funding. Which party did that happen under?
Many countries around the world have massively lower production costs than the uk (no idea specifically about Chile) due to everything from wages, legislation and land costs to environmental and welfare standards. Furthermore, most countries subsidise their farmers, we no longer do in the Uk (except for payments to grow wild flowers not food).
By all means, close down our farms and buy in everything from abroad. You may find you have some very empty shelves in the supermarket.
Sorry Harry as you know, we get on, but this time, I'll leave it thereSometimes?
We’re all to blame anyway for giving all our money to supermarkets.
Last year I discovered I can go to Trenchmore Farm near Cowfold, pay the same price /kg for a roasting joint of Sussex beef of significantly better quality as Sainsbury’s will charge you as one example.
Pork seems a bit more tricky, I try to use a local tenant farmer but his bacon is £5 a pack which is a lot more than supermarket but significantly better quality.
Chicken is pretty difficult as well given the terrible conditions we accept for cheap supermarket chicken
But we are all lazy and want the convenience of a supermarket and don’t really care about farmers, unless the media tells us to be
Last year I discovered I can go to Trenchmore Farm near Cowfold, pay the same price /kg for a roasting joint of Sussex beef of significantly better quality as Sainsbury’s will charge you as one example.
Pork seems a bit more tricky, I try to use a local tenant farmer but his bacon is £5 a pack which is a lot more than supermarket but significantly better quality.
Chicken is pretty difficult as well given the terrible conditions we accept for cheap supermarket chicken
But we are all lazy and want the convenience of a supermarket and don’t really care about farmers, unless the media tells us to be
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- May 8, 2018
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I was a member at Hassocks before the owner sold it, apparently £50,000 rent from the club per annum wasn’t enough for him, but seeing Bellway selling small 4 beds north of £600k suggests a few million was made.
I wasn’t aware that the BH course was still due to be transferred, assuming they extended the lease as the original one expired a few years back? Quids in for the Oak Barn if a development is added
JackB247
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The Government is right to get the unpopular decisions out the way earlier but I think they've made misjudgements with the Budget in a multitude of ways and they've definitely picked an unnecessary fight here politically against the NFU/farming community.
Such is the strength of feeling on this I think it's fair to say that those Labour MPs who won rural seats in July can already kiss goodbye to those in 28 or 29.
Such is the strength of feeling on this I think it's fair to say that those Labour MPs who won rural seats in July can already kiss goodbye to those in 28 or 29.
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
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it's set to £1m not £3m. look at the preceding line suggesting a basis around 300 acres at 10k. the threshold will take in 100 acre or lower with substantial buildings value. people in favour like to double up spouse sharing allowance and lump in some other factors to inflate to a higher number.
all to raise about £500m. funny when looking back through Hansard on earlier debate in 70's on this issue, it raised around the same. IHT raises so little but attracts so much attention.
Because that's the reality.