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[Other Sport] Haka (or not)













Motogull

Motogull

Todd Warrior
Sep 16, 2005
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Facing the Haka has to be one of your best memories if you play at that level. Not many will experience it.
 




Eeyore

Eeyore

Colonel Hee-Haw of Queen's Park
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Apr 5, 2014
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Joe has a tendency to speak what's on his mind in a, shall we say, inappropriate ways sometimes. He can be very funny at times, but he can also be a bit rude.

The haka is part of New Zealand heritage and is a famous sight in rugby. Nothing wrong with the responses either. All theatricals.
 








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AstroSloth

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Dec 29, 2020
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aolstudios said:
Following on from Seagulls fan Joe Marler's controversial words last week (& coincidentally, the Bluesky thread). I'm not a Haka fan (despite, or maybe because of being in a small room with Buck Shelford & some mates performing it a few years ago) but this is superb... https://bsky.app/profile/ziibiing.com/post/3law66jmgjk2n
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I've never seen a Haka for sports, but I've seen the band Alien Weaponry perform a Haka at the start of their shows.

They're a New Zealand band that often sing in Te Reo Māori and about the history of the indigenous Moari population.

 




BN9 BHA

BN9 BHA

DOCKERS
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Newhaven
Brian Fantana said:
I totally appreciate the cultural significance of the Haka to New Zealand and the other South Sea islands. It certainly adds some colour to test match rugby. However, I don't really see why teams are a) forced to line up and watch it and b) not be able to respond to it themselves.
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Spot on, the England team should just be allowed to go and warm up well away from the NZ team, stay in the dressing room and let them get on with their dance act or all hold up large cards saying BOTHERED ? :wink:
 




Finch

Finch

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Jul 21, 2009
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New Zealand
Haka means more to me than a national sing-song. If watching delayed I tend to fast forward through the anthems as they are boring as shit. I think at some point we've got to address dual language anthems as well, are we going to sing our anthem twice forever? I'd axe our english national anthem in a heartbeat to shorten it down.

It's pretty understandable that there is going to be people out there who don't get the Haka or enjoy it on the other side when its not their culture.

Brian Fantana said:
I totally appreciate the cultural significance of the Haka to New Zealand and the other South Sea islands. It certainly adds some colour to test match rugby. However, I don't really see why teams are a) forced to line up and watch it and b) not be able to respond to it themselves.
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In terms of a) if you want to challenge a nation you take on that nation and culture. You can turn your back on it, its disrespectful but no one is stopping you.

In terms of b) you can if its of cultural significance / contextually appropriate. A few things have been tried, Australia did Waltzing Matilda for a while in response to the Haka but IRB eventually ruled it wasn't really a culturally significant song. If England wanted they could put together something that is culturally important and contextually appropriate.
 




aolstudios

aolstudios

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Nov 30, 2011
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brighton
Eeyore said:
Joe has a tendency to speak what's on his mind in a, shall we say, inappropriate ways sometimes. He can be very funny at times, but he can also be a bit rude.

The haka is part of New Zealand heritage and is a famous sight in rugby. Nothing wrong with the responses either. All theatricals.
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I think Joe pricking the bubble of over reverance is to be encouraged, frankly
 








Triggaaar

Triggaaar

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Oct 24, 2005
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Goldstone
It's a no from me
 


BN9 BHA

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DOCKERS
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Village People Dancing GIF by Saturday Night Live
 




Eeyore

Eeyore

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Apr 5, 2014
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Brian Fantana said:
I totally appreciate the cultural significance of the Haka to New Zealand and the other South Sea islands. It certainly adds some colour to test match rugby. However, I don't really see why teams are a) forced to line up and watch it and b) not be able to respond to it themselves.
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But I'm struggling to see why anyone would have an issue with it. It's been around for decades. Part of the spectacle. They are not forced to do anything as far as I am aware. They just aren't allowed to cross the half way line (which there was no need to). The arrow was fine. For me it's a non issue.

The French knew what to do- without breaking the rules. Pure theatre

 




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