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[Misc] Are you pro or anti AI?



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Hovegull

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I saw the interesting story about Daisy the AI granny that has been trained to take scam calls. She spends ages wasting their time by being cooperative and compliant but taking her time understanding what scammers want her to do and being really annoying and wanting a nice long chat at the same time.
Wonderful stuff.


I’ve always been concerned about these virtual AI bots - but this sort of thing sounds like an ideal way to use them.
What do you think?
 






Wozza

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Yes. No. Don't know.

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Giraffe

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Overall I think I’m negative. But that probably makes me a Luddite. I think there is a very real danger of it blurring the lines between humans and technology that in x years we won’t have any choice but to do as the tech says. That’s a concern.

That said my AI toothbrush is incredible.
 


Pavilionaire

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Jul 7, 2003
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If AI was so f***ing clever we would all be making millions on trading platforms. Hasn’t a scoby what to do the stupid twat.
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This is a changing world. Even farmers are having to diversify:

"Old MacDonald had a trading platform
AI, AI, £0"
 




Joey Jo Jo Jr. Shabadoo

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The new Apple AI summaries notifications and gives you an overview. Apparently earlier one of my best mates had sent me a message in which he'd shared a picture and made a playful comment. I'm not sure calling me a **** is "playful"
 




Mustafa II

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It is the most incredible leap in technological evolution of all time. It will change everything, as humans will become effectively obsolete.

We have created something that can use all human knowledge and refer to it almost impeccably in an instant, and use it to create new logic and ideas to build on that knowledge, also in an instant. No human being can compete with it.

When AI becomes established, there will be no need to hire human beings for most jobs anymore.

The technology is amazing, it could make all of our lives utopian. But whether we are ready for this, or whether global politics and the capitalist overlords will allow it to become a utopia for us, is the only reason to doubt it - as in the same way it can (and surely will) be utilised for more sinister means.
 




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Wozza said:
Yes. No. Don't know.

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That's great. At first glance the answers seem *correct.....

As I posted before, an AI generated essay answer to a question set by me scores a fail every time.

But I rather like AI. It is to genuine content what a porn mag is to a relationship (showing my age, there).

*A bit like Johnson, Truss and Badenough
 




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Mustafa II said:
It is the most incredible leap in technological evolution of all time. It will change everything, as humans will become effectively obsolete.

We have created something that can use all human knowledge and refer to it almost impeccably in an instant, and use it to create new logic and ideas to build on it. No human being can compete with it.

When AI becomes established, there will be no need to hire human beings for most jobs anymore.

The technology is amazing, it can make all of our lives utopian. But whether we are ready for this, or whether global politics and the capitalist overlords will allow it to become a utopia for us, is the only reason to doubt it - as it similarly can (and surely will) be used for sinister means.
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Speak for yourself, mate.
 




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Hovegull said:
I saw the interesting story about Daisy the AI granny that has been trained to take scam calls. She spends ages wasting their time by being cooperative and compliant but taking her time understanding what scammers want her to do and being really annoying and wanting a nice long chat at the same time.
Wonderful stuff.


I’ve always been concerned about these virtual AI bots - but this sort of thing sounds like an ideal way to use them.
What do you think?
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They played a snippet of Daisy on the radio yesterday. It was excellent and very realistic.
 




sparkie

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I feel very neo-luddite towards it.

I think it'll be the end of us. Armed AI drone swarms will one day hunt us all.

Pull the plug now.

Mind you, I suppose a last ditch EMP would fry them but then we'd be living back in the stone age, so there is that hope.

*Realises this post may be used as part of AI training one day* D'Oh.
 
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Greg Bobkin

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Mustafa II said:
It is the most incredible leap in technological evolution of all time. It will change everything, as humans will become effectively obsolete.

We have created something that can use all human knowledge and refer to it almost impeccably in an instant, and use it to create new logic and ideas to build on that knowledge, also in an instant. No human being can compete with it.

When AI becomes established, there will be no need to hire human beings for most jobs anymore.

The technology is amazing, it could make all of our lives utopian. But whether we are ready for this, or whether global politics and the capitalist overlords will allow it to become a utopia for us, is the only reason to doubt it - as in the same way it can (and surely will) be utilised for more sinister means.
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If the majority of people don't have a job – and therefore no money – how do they survive? Even if they didn't have to work (in a weird world where nothing costs anything), what would they do all day?
 




vegster

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Greg Bobkin said:
If the majority of people don't have a job – and therefore no money – how do they survive? Even if they didn't have to work (in a weird world where nothing costs anything), what would they do all day?
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I think I was warned 30 years ago that jobs would disappear due to the rise in robots, and that people would pay to have jobs to stop them dying of boredom. Well, we now have human robots as we are still cheaper..... And,if and when AI can deduce what the 7.30 am queue in Greggs require by scanning the random mix of painters, scaffolders ground workers and plasterers, only then will I be worried.
 






Mustafa II

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Greg Bobkin said:
If the majority of people don't have a job – and therefore no money – how do they survive? Even if they didn't have to work (in a weird world where nothing costs anything), what would they do all day?
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Well that's the exactly issue that AI will create. Mass unemployment, as a majority of essential jobs become automated by AI and robotics.

Hopefully humanity and our politics can embrace it - letting us all live free lives without work, allowing us to venture whatever we choose to. That's utopia, I guess.

But there is a chance that the ruling classes won't allow that to happen - so the mass unemployment unemployment could result in civil unrest, or worse. Not to mention the potential for AI to become weaponised.

What would we do all day? Hobbies, self improvement, discovery. If I could retire tomorrow and be financially ok, it wouldn't require much consideration, and the same surely applies to a majority of people.
 


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