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[Albion] Should Joel Veltman be in the Dutch squad (even if not first choice)?







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sussex_guy2k2

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SeagullinExile said:
Arguably, he plays against better players week in, week out in the PL. Most International matches these days are against far weaker opponents.

Joel would be fine at International level.
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He’d be fine. Of course he would. In the same way Brentford’s English left back or Newcastle’s big ol’Dan Burn would be fine at International level for England… or our very own Lewis Dunk.

That doesn’t mean there aren’t better players available for them, or players more suitable to the system.

Look, I love the guy. He’s been great for us, but I’m yet to see an argument that he’d get into the Dutch side at the moment ahead of the other players they have.
 




SeagullinExile

SeagullinExile

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sussex_guy2k2 said:
He’d be fine. Of course he would. In the same way Brentford’s English left back or Newcastle’s big ol’Dan Burn would be fine at International level for England… or our very own Lewis Dunk.

That doesn’t mean there aren’t better players available for them, or players more suitable to the system.

Look, I love the guy. He’s been great for us, but I’m yet to see an argument that he’d get into the Dutch side at the moment ahead of the other players they have.
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I don’t disagree. I’m just arguing that if he was called upon, he wouldn’t struggle as some folks are saying.
 






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Mr deez said:
I have no idea what their options are. But I do think people are overestimating the quality of international football.
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sussex_guy2k2

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SeagullinExile said:
I don’t disagree. I’m just arguing that if he was called upon, he wouldn’t struggle as some folks are saying.
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And I agree with that. I was lambasted for saying England would’ve been better calling up actual left backs from the Prem in the summer, rather than pushing players out of position.

But Veltman has some seriously stiff competition to get in at either RB or CB in that Dutch side.

And the original post was about a former player blasting the set up for not including him. All I’m saying is I think there are better players in his position and I can see why he’s not been called up.

I can still think the guy is great for us, all whilst being rational about it.
 


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sussex_guy2k2

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Hamilton said:
Surely he shouldn’t be playing for us then?
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Why? We protect his weaknesses and play to his strengths in a very clearly defined system… international football doesn’t allow for this in quite the same way.

And surely the signing of Ferdi was a look to the future and potentially replacing him anyway?
 




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sussex_guy2k2 said:
Why? We protect his weaknesses and play to his strengths in a very clearly defined system… international football doesn’t allow for this in quite the same way.

And surely the signing of Ferdi was a look to the future and potentially replacing him anyway?
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Ferdi's stated preferred position, that he was previously playing, was left back. Hence letting Barco go
 


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