The opposite happened with NSC.
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The opposite happened with NSC.
Greg Bobkin
Silver Seagull
- May 22, 2012
- 16,023
I honestly don't think, looking at the numbers, that anyone would've beaten Trump.
Yep and it mirrors the rhetoric on here. Anyone daring to show any support for the republicans shot down as an idiot, lambasted. The real idiots are the arrogant people who keep up this line of debate.
Wallace
Active member
- Nov 9, 2016
- 166
They're both democratically elected politicians, why aren't they allowed to celebrate each others success?
ROSM
Well-known member
You are confusing someone winning as not being an idiot.
As for arrogance. What is worse, ignorance, arrogance or apathy?
Viva California lol ?
Well LA which is a dystopian , crime riddled hell hole under woke dem Gascon got a new republican DA today, as Gascon got an absolute shoeing.
Let's hope he cleans things up there.
I'm not. There's a way to support your candidate without trashing and looking down on the other side. And that goes for Dems and republicans.
Stato
Well-known member
- Dec 21, 2011
- 7,365
It’s not him who’ll be doing the damage. It’s those who used him to get power. They’ve been preparing this time and they’ll be far more radical. Christian Nationalism will be given free reign to pursue all of its medieval obsessions.
Lenny Rider
Well-known member
- Sep 15, 2010
- 6,009
Around this time 8 years ago whilst on a cruise, had a beer or two with a very level headed, educated gent from Chicago who was lamenting it was probably one of the most significant elections in the free world, the top job in the US, and they’d ended up with Trump and Clinton as the final two, someone has just said the self same thing on the TV nearly 10 years on
Good luck with that.
Europe is a mess, with right wing nationalists calling the tune.
If Badenough manages to get Farage to join in with her adventure, the UK will go the same way in 5 years.
Four years ago the discussion on the equivalent thread was civil and polite - let's try to keep it that way this time, shall we?
A cure for homosexuality. Compulsory prayer!
- Nov 11, 2009
- 12,267
She would be, but she didn't want it.
As much as im all for a woman or woman of colour, fact is Trump beat a woman and lost to a man. And with so many white simpleton hillbilly males, Bidens decision to coronate his woman of colour VP with no process was stupid. Of course she's more qualified than Trump and more than capable, but winning and stopping Trump should have included voter perception and demographics. Its just the way it is.
Once it was Harris the next really big OG was her VP choice. Walz seems a genuinely nice fella, but Josh Shapiro is the real rising star, strong, charismatic, Jewish and the governor of the must win Pensylvannia.
If he was the presidential candidate it would've been different.
Bidens gaffes will always define him
That's not actually true. For example, this is a post I made on this thread on the 15th October...
I'll describe a friend of mine in the US. You tell me who they vote for...
- Female
- University educated
- Bright
- Funny
- Socially aware
- Lives in Southern California
...you've guessed she votes Trump, because I wouldn't be asking otherwise.
In our discussions around this, I think it really comes down to the belief that Trump is better for a strong US economy, and a strong US economy is best for her family's ongoing prosperity and quality of life.
A few years ago her husband lost his job and it took him a fair while to find another one. I know she was genuinely concerned they would lose their home and find themselves in a bad financial position in a country that doesn't do a great job of looking after those who fall on hard times.
And I guess I can empathise with that, regardless of my incredulity as to how anyone could believe Trump is capable to lead the US.
Blindly dismissing tens of millions of people as stupid is easy to do, but short-sighted. Gullible may be a more accurate tag, if any has to be found.
Trump has perfected the playbook of convincing a lot of people that he's in their corner, fighting for them. He's really not. If the working people are better off, it's merely a side-effect of those he's actually focused on.
It's not support for the Republicans that is so depressing. It's the support for Trump as a person.
100%.
Crawley Dingo
Political thread tourist.
- Mar 31, 2022
- 1,080
Malleable not gullible
Soton Seagull
Well-known member
Hate and division win again.
As a species we can't help but try and destroy ourselves.
Sad times, with a growing 1930s feel.
As a species we can't help but try and destroy ourselves.
Sad times, with a growing 1930s feel.