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Zeberdi

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But wait....

I googled 'where was the sheep shearing machine invented' and......oh dear, are Australians making false claims again?

'The sheep shearing machine was invented in Australia by Frederick York Wolseley, an Australian sheepgrower:
(all good so far) …Wolseley's machines were manufactured in Birmingham, England by his company, The Wolseley Sheep Shearing Machine Company...
Wolseley was born in Dublin and moved to Australia in 1854.
(Bugger, he was Irish)


Ha! - Invention, development and production all started in Australia though - the Wolesley Sheep Shearing Company Ltd was set up to by Wolseley make his sheep sheering machines and incorporated in Sydney before ownership was later transferred to Wolesley’s new company in England to continue production.

Wolesley is buried in Beckenham cemetery where I grew up.

Every day is a wiki day :lol:
 




WATFORD zero

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I'm not convinced by that Australian research.

I understand that someone called @Bozza is conducting a study similar to the original over here in the UK and i'll await the outcome of that :thumbsup:
 
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Eric the meek

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Ha! - Invention, development and production all started in Australia though - the Wolesley Sheep Shearing Company Ltd was set up to by Wolseley make his sheep sheering machines and incorporated in Sydney before ownership was later transferred to Wolesley’s new company in England to continue production.

Wolesley is buried in Beckenham cemetery where I grew up.

Every day is a wiki day :lol:
Not a mention of my 'woolly' joke then. I'm wasted on here. ;)

'Every day is a wiki day'. Indeed. I've got to find something to do with my life, otherwise I'd be doing the housework or inventing something like a sheep-shearing machine.

But what a life Wolseley lived. Born in Dublin, went to Australia in 1854, saw a problem, invented a solution, went back to England to set up a company to make it, and then brought it back to Australia, and finished up introducing it to the sheep stations of Australia.
 


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Sir Alexander Fleming ‘invented’ Penicillin at St.Mary’s Hospital in London. He was Scottish, and there is absolutely no mention of him doing anything down under.
 


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nicko31

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Stubby holder springs to mind

A more significant one is the Cochlea implant, also the PAP therapy machine developed by Resmed a Sydney company
 








tedebear

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Sir Alexander Fleming ‘invented’ Penicillin at St.Mary’s Hospital in London. He was Scottish, and there is absolutely no mention of him doing anything down under.

Correct, but it couldn't be used. Penicillin was discovered by Fleming. The Australians turned it into a medicne and were awarded the Nobel prize for doing so. Maybe I should have said Penicillian medicine.

 


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You can remove penicillin from that list. Alexander Fleming, 1928.
Nope, Pencillin was indeed found by Fleming. But the medicine Penicillin was invented by the Australians who received a Nobel prize for it..I should have written Penicillin medicine to be more exact. But what Fleming discovered wasn't what you have today.
 


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Correct, but it couldn't be used. Penicillin was discovered by Fleming. The Australians turned it into a medicne and were awarded the Nobel prize for doing so. Maybe I should have said Penicillian medicine.


Nope, Pencillin was indeed found by Fleming. But the medicine Penicillin was invented by the Australians who received a Nobel prize for it..I should have written Penicillin medicine to be more exact. But what Fleming discovered wasn't what you have today.
When you say 'Australians' turned it into a medicine.....The team were led by an Aussie and a German - they were the two that got the Nobel Prize (alongside Fleming) - with important strides in the development by an Englishman. So, we could equally say that penicillin medicine was invented by the Germans!
 




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Zeberdi

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Eric the meek

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When you say 'Australians' turned it into a medicine.....The team were led by an Aussie and a German - they were the two that got the Nobel Prize (alongside Fleming) - with important strides in the development by an Englishman. So, we could equally say that penicillin medicine was invented by the Germans!
No, don't tell me.

The Englishman did the pioneering stuff, the German politely ensured all work was done in adherence to the rules, and the Australian thought he should get the credit?
 


Zeberdi

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When you say 'Australians' turned it into a medicine.....The team were led by an Aussie and a German - they were the two that got the Nobel Prize (alongside Fleming) - with important strides in the development by an Englishman. So, we could equally say that penicillin medicine was invented by the Germans!

Correct! My Mother trained at the Radcliffe Infirmary in Oxford so it was one of the first things we learnt about medicine as kids

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There was a commemoration plaque installed at the Alexander Fleming museum in 1999 which reads:

In 1928, at St. Mary's Hospital, London, Alexander Fleming discovered penicillin. This discovery led to the introduction of antibiotics that greatly reduced the number of deaths from infection. Howard W. Florey, at the University of Oxford working with Ernst B. Chain, Norman G. Heatley and Edward P. Abraham, successfully took penicillin from the laboratory to the clinic as a medical treatment in 1941. The large-scale development of penicillin was undertaken in the United States of America during the 1939-1945 World War, led by scientists and engineers at the Northern Regional Research Laboratory of the US Department of Agriculture, Abbott Laboratories, Lederle Laboratories, Merck & Co., Inc., Chas. Pfizer & Co. Inc., and E.R. Squibb & Sons. The discovery and development of penicillin was a milestone in twentieth century pharmaceutical chemistry.

In 1941, Howard Florey and Ernst Boris Chain at the University of Oxford were able to isolate the purified compound, penicillin F. Fleming, Chain, and Florey shared the 1945 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for the work into the medicinal application of penicillin conducted at Oxford University.

Btw Mark Oliphant who was one of the key physicists on the Manhattan Project under Oppenheimer was Australian - does this mean the Australians invented the Atom bomb? Nah.
 
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