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[Politics] Donald Trump, US President Elect 2025

Who will win the 2024 Presidential Election?

  • President Joe Biden - Democrat

    Votes: 3 0.7%

  • Donald Trump - Republican

    Votes: 173 41.9%

  • Vice President, Kamala Harris - Democrat

    Votes: 217 52.5%

  • Other Democratic candidate tbc

    Votes: 20 4.8%
  • Total voters
    413
  • This poll will close: .


Zeberdi

Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
7,223
Albion my Albion said:
Obama nominated the current attorney general, Merrick Garland, who happened to work at the same law firm in Washington DC, Arnold & Porter, as my sister, for the Supreme Court but the Republican leader of the US Senate, Mitch McConnell, refused to hold a vote on Garland using the reason that it was too close to an election while later allowing a vote on Judge Barrett that was closer to an election than Garland's nomination. The problems and make up of SCOTUS can all be blamed on Kentucky Senator Mitch McConnell. He is now retiring from the Senate but this will only bring in an even worse Republican if the GOP keep control of the Senate.
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What a shame Ruth Bader Ginsburg died just weeks before the 2020 election which allowed Mitch McConnell, in the most blatant hypocritical move by a Senate leader I’ve ever seen, to rush through Justice Amy Barret’s nomination before Biden got elected.

Apparently the Democrats aren’t allowed to nominate anyone to SCOTUS within a year of a Presidential election but the Republicans can force through a hard right, Catholic, pro-life candidate just before the election to make way for Trump’s promise back in 2016 he would stack the Court with judges who would overturn Roe -v- Wade.


www.aclu.org

Overturning Roe is Just the Beginning | ACLU

Two years after Trump’s Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, the ACLU examines how a second Trump administration would further imperil abortion access and reproductive rights nationwide – and our roadmap to fight back.
www.aclu.org
 
















pb21

pb21

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Apr 23, 2010
6,715
Bodian said:
I honestly can't see this having much impact so late in the day. Trumpists will just say it's fake news and AI generated. And the MAGA lot won't care anyway - they know he's a sleazebag, that's factored in already. Amazing that he gets away with so much really.
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Yep, as @Crawley Dingo showed, this is why they and Trump supporters want him to win.

They want an obnoxious unscrupulous sleazebag.

It's a quite sad state of affairs really. What would hurt Trump more is if he came out and started being normal and not an obnoxious unscrupulous sleazebag.
 


vegster

vegster

Sanity Clause
May 5, 2008
28,282
Fignon's Ponytail said:
I find it all so utterly depressing tbh. I love the US, but Im seriously concerned about where its heading...
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I used to think that Trump was a nasty piece of work but that, if elected, he would be surrounded by experts and decent advisors who would moderate his stupidity and hate. However, somehow, all the "Good Guys " either quit in disgust or got marginalised by the real nutters riding on Trumps coat tails. This time around, if elected, it will be bad, if he's NOT elected it will be bad... I think there could be Civil War.
 






nicko31

nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
18,709
Gods country fortnightly
5Ways Gull said:
At the end of the day even if Harris wins there are still huge swathes of people over there who will have voted for the witless dumbf*ck.
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Indeed politics is so polluted. The only chance of a proper reset to normality would be a wipe out of Trump.

That ain’t gonna happen, the absolute worse case would be has 40 percent.

The Murdoch press normalised Trump, they then tried to put the genie back in the bottle but it was too late, and they didn’t have the ethical backbone to walk away when they realised it’s now a cult.
 


US Seagull

US Seagull

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Jul 17, 2003
4,812
Cleveland, OH
Albion my Albion said:
Obama nominated the current attorney general, Merrick Garland, who happened to work at the same law firm in Washington DC, Arnold & Porter, as my sister, for the Supreme Court but the Republican leader of the US Senate, Mitch McConnell, refused to hold a vote on Garland using the reason that it was too close to an election while later allowing a vote on Judge Barrett that was closer to an election than Garland's nomination. The problems and make up of SCOTUS can all be blamed on Kentucky Senator Mitch McConnell. He is now retiring from the Senate but this will only bring in an even worse Republican if the GOP keep control of the Senate.

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Merrick Garland - Wikipedia

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A native of the Chicago area, Garland attended Harvard University and Harvard Law School, where he was an editor of the Harvard Law Review. He served as a law clerk to Judge Henry Friendly of the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit and to U.S. Supreme Court Justice William J. Brennan Jr., and then practiced corporate litigation at Arnold & Porter, after which he worked as a federal prosecutor in the United States Department of Justice, where he supervised the investigation and prosecution of the Oklahoma City bombers.
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McConnell is retiring from his position as leader of the Republicans in the Senate. He is still in the Senate until 2026, at least. He is widely expected to retire and not run again, but, AFAIK, he has not announced his plans yet.
 








Lyndhurst 14

Lyndhurst 14

Well-known member
Jan 16, 2008
5,256
Zeberdi said:
What a shame Ruth Bader Ginsburg died just weeks before the 2020 election which allowed Mitch McConnell, in the most blatant hypocritical move by a Senate leader I’ve ever seen, to rush through Justice Amy Barret’s nomination before Biden got elected.

Apparently the Democrats aren’t allowed to nominate anyone to SCOTUS within a year of a Presidential election but the Republicans can force through a hard right, Catholic, pro-life candidate just before the election to make way for Trump’s promise back in 2016 he would stack the Court with judges who would overturn Roe -v- Wade.


www.aclu.org

Overturning Roe is Just the Beginning | ACLU

Two years after Trump’s Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, the ACLU examines how a second Trump administration would further imperil abortion access and reproductive rights nationwide – and our roadmap to fight back.
www.aclu.org
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This wouldn't have happened if RBG had stood down during the Obama administration. She gambled on Hilary Clinton winning the election and that didn't happen.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/06/10/ruth-bader-ginsburg-retire-legacy-00038638
 










Withdean South Stand

Withdean South Stand

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Mar 2, 2014
648
US Seagull said:
Trump calling for executions, and yet it's the Democrat's "violent rhetoric" that is the problem

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There must be some consequence for this, surely? Whether it's a warning from the Po-Po or a public smack down from the Secret Service, there has to be something said. It's unbelievable how you've got worms like McConnell and Johnson "uniting" to criticise the "rhetoric" from Kamala Harris when Drumpf is spewing that sort of hateful nonsense. The man is absolute garbage.
 




Withdean South Stand

Withdean South Stand

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Mar 2, 2014
648
As an aside, https://news.sky.com/story/us-elect...se-marriage-has-been-tested-by-trump-13245791.

"He is the future for America," she said. "I don't want to see people coming over our border. We've had women murdered and raped by illegal immigrants. Who wants their children dead as a result of fentanyl, which comes over the border?"

The husband hates Trump, the wife loves him and spouted that rubbish. Just regurgitating the talking points she's no doubt had rammed into her head for years on Fox News. Really, really tragic. The article doesn't cover it, but I wonder how much of his tat she's bought and how much money she's donated to the campaign (retiring his personal debt).
 


Zeberdi

Zeberdi

“Vorsprung durch Technik”
NSC Patron
Oct 20, 2022
7,223
Lyndhurst 14 said:
This wouldn't have happened if RBG had stood down during the Obama administration. She gambled on Hilary Clinton winning the election and that didn't happen.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/06/10/ruth-bader-ginsburg-retire-legacy-00038638
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The Republicans won the Senate in 2014 - anyone as liberal as Ginsburg would not have been confirmed- she would have had to resign in 2013 while she was at the pinnacle of her judicial career and her mind exceptional sharp if it was to be guaranteed Obama could have replaced her with another liberal candidate.

Even then, it is a bit of a myth to think the Republicans would have confirmed any candidate Obama would put forward under his administration as the Merrick Garland debacle over Anton Scalia’s death in February 2016 proved.

’In an interview with Elle Magazine in the fall of 2014, she said that “anybody who thinks that if I step down, Obama could appoint someone like me, they’re misguided.” No one as liberal as she was could get confirmed, she suggested.

RBG was not the sort of women to be told what to do by anyone and in 2013 she was at the pinnacle of her career, the most popular Justice on the Court amongst the public and a staunch egalitarian when it came to the rights of women and LBQGT. Why on earth should one of the most pioneering justices of the Supreme Court in history be told by a bunch of men in Washington to resign because Congress is so bipartisan and fcuked up?

 


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