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[Misc] Retirement



Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,029
Goldstone
Hi Chaps,

Off to India in a couple of weeks, doing the Golden Triangle, flying to Mumbai and then going on a cruise down through Cochin, Goa and Southern Asia.

This thread is depressing for a number of us not nearing retirement.
 




A mex eyecan

Well-known member
Nov 3, 2011
3,840
😀 mmmm, fancy talking about retirement on a thread titled retirement.

Triggaaar, not taking the Micky it just struck me as funny.
 
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Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,029
Goldstone
😀 mmmm, fancy talking about retirement on a thread titled retirement.

Triggaaar, not taking the Micky it just struck me as funny.

Well of course you should talk about retirement, but instead of sharing amazing holiday plans, can't you just say it's crap, you're bored and you wish you were still working?
 




A mex eyecan

Well-known member
Nov 3, 2011
3,840
Well of course you should talk about retirement, but instead of sharing amazing holiday plans, can't you just say it's crap, you're bored and you wish you were still working?
Trigaaar.
Im retired. It’s bloody awful.
I now have to take the Mrs shopping. That’s costing more petrol money AND car park money
I now have to go take her to see her Sister, which means my ears get a royal bashing
I have to go for coffee and cake which has caused me to put on half a stone
I have to go for walks which has worn out my trainers far more frequently
I frequently oversleep which means i have to eat breakfast later than I’d like
I have time to clean the cars
I have time to watch A Place In The Sun

See, it’s all downers mate. You keep working, you know you’re better off doing so.
 












dazzer6666

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NSC Patron
Mar 27, 2013
55,417
Burgess Hill
After the budget, and the news of IHT (and tax) on Pensions (SIPPs) left for beneficiaries, how many of us retired are starting to re-think our estate and pensions plans? (assuming I last past 2027!).
No change really. Kids are now possibly going to end up with a tax bill they wouldn’t have had, but I’m doing my level best to not have much left when the reaper comes calling (short summary advice on best way to avoid IHT hasn‘t materially changed - spend it/give it away).
 


Daddies_Sauce

Falmer WSL, not a JCL
Jun 27, 2008
880
My expression of wishes states that I will leave 50% of that remaining on my demise to the Mrs and 25% to each of our 2 Children, Mrs will still receive her share tax free (if I go before 75) but the kids will be hit with IHT and tax bills.
 


Weststander

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Aug 25, 2011
69,173
Withdean area
My expression of wishes states that I will leave 50% of that remaining on my demise to the Mrs and 25% to each of our 2 Children, Mrs will still receive her share tax free (if I go before 75) but the kids will be hit with IHT and tax bills.

Are the kids hit with the IHT or the estate before their share is worked out?

I say this because of the anti IHT in any shape or form say “Big government are taxing my kids”.
 




Daddies_Sauce

Falmer WSL, not a JCL
Jun 27, 2008
880
As I understand it currently (I'm still reading and and this may change), Pension providers have to settle any IHT (from the remaining pot) before they can distribute the remainder of the SIPP, presumably based on your expressions of wishes. By changing the expression of wishes and leaving everything to the Mrs, then she can still inherit tax free (if I go before 75) and then 'gift' to the kids?
 


BrightonCottager

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Sep 30, 2013
2,742
Brighton
As I understand it currently (I'm still reading and and this may change), Pension providers have to settle any IHT (from the remaining pot) before they can distribute the remainder of the SIPP, presumably based on your expressions of wishes. By changing the expression of wishes and leaving everything to the Mrs, then she can still inherit tax free (if I go before 75) and then 'gift' to the kids?
Is it only SIPPs that get taxed, or ordinary occupational and private pensions as well?
 


Triggaaar

Well-known member
Oct 24, 2005
53,029
Goldstone
My expression of wishes states that I will leave 50% of that remaining on my demise to the Mrs and 25% to each of our 2 Children, Mrs will still receive her share tax free (if I go before 75)

What happens at 75?
 








North of Robertsbridge

Well-known member
Sep 22, 2023
267
East Sussex
Is it only SIPPs that get taxed, or ordinary occupational and private pensions as well?
It applies to all direct contribution (DC) pensions. DB pensions and annuities may also leave something for beneficiaries, but with DC it’s the total remaining pot, and at the moment that’s growing, even drawing down around 6% a year

I’ve told my little one what this is going to mean for her and we’re agreed that we parents should spend as much as possible during our retirement (although the prospect of paying higher rate tax on my pension is a bit aggravating as allowance remain frozen for the moment)
 










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