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Mancgull

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Likewise I'm far from convinced 'yet' he's any more than average. Any next appointment will make or break him. Probably another reason why he's been so picky - not wanting a terminal blot on the CV . Without Covid empty stadiums during that long winless spell plus a tolerant owner in TB, he'd have been long canned from most clubs. His rep is mostly remembered for the late days of 21/22 and early days of 22/23. Particularly the latter when we hit the ground running and his mojo rocketed. Prior to that, form was often sketchy with good highlights here and there.
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And that’s when we had a midfield of Caicedo, Bissouma, Mwepu and AliMac.
He’s shown an outright lack of ambition and drive by simply taking the Chelsea money for 18 months and being ultra picky as to where he goes.
If TB and PB did approach him he may be regretting his decision on that too.
I also believe he thought he had a good chance with the United and England jobs. How life can pass you by!
 




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Mancgull said:
And that’s when we had a midfield of Caicedo, Bissouma, Mwepu and AliMac.
He’s shown an outright lack of ambition and drive by simply taking the Chelsea money for 18 months and being ultra picky as to where he goes.
If TB and PB did approach him he may be regretting his decision on that too.
I also believe he thought he had a good chance with the United and England jobs. How life can pass you by!
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Depends on what you and your family’s priorities and wants out of life are when you are loaded.
 


JBizzle

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Mancgull said:
And that’s when we had a midfield of Caicedo, Bissouma, Mwepu and AliMac.
He’s shown an outright lack of ambition and drive by simply taking the Chelsea money for 18 months and being ultra picky as to where he goes.
If TB and PB did approach him he may be regretting his decision on that too.
I also believe he thought he had a good chance with the United and England jobs. How life can pass you by!
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I'm always interested to understand why going to Chelsea was a "lack of ambition". Chelsea are a basket case, yes, but they weren't at that point, so going to a massive club that's completing in the Champions League on a massive pay bump arguable is the ambitious move.

I'd also argue that being picky is also a sign of ambition. If he was just after the next pay check, he'd likely be working somewhere already, no? A multi-millionaire waiting for the right job is a perfectly sensible approach to me.
 


Dave the OAP

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Maybe he doesn’t want another job in management.


Let’s face it he has pots in the bank and now gets pundtry work

where is the Swedish weirdo with his opinion?
 








Lady Whistledown

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Mancgull said:
He’s shown an outright lack of ambition and drive by simply taking the Chelsea money for 18 months and being ultra picky as to where he goes.
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Or, there were terms in his severance agreement with Chelsea that meant if he took another PL job within that 18 month period, he'd be liable to lose his payout.

Put yourself in his shoes. Say he took a job at another club who were in relegation trouble (which is when most clubs need new managers), and they went down anyway, and the board decide to fire him. He gets his payout from that club but loses the far bigger Chelsea pay off, which might be- I've genuinely no idea but he was rumoured to be on a £12m/ yr, 5 year contract at the Bridge- say, £35m. Then he either can't get another job, or gets one on a lower salary, and then fails again, and can't find further football employment. It happens- when was the last time Alan Pardew had a job, for example?

Or, he could sit tight, take the £30m, and then start looking at other jobs once that period has expired, but before his stock has fallen in any real sense. The only gamble he's taken is being prepared to wait, and risking the Next Big Thing coming along and becoming the go-to manager for clubs in need instead of him.
 






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Widely reported that Potter received £13m in severance pay, Chelsea let it be known that he didn’t receive the rest of the £60m contract pro rata.

In their accounts you don’t get to see a sum as a one off exceptional cost. Which is unusual eg in Manure and Spurs accounts you get to see the exact huge sums paid in dismissing management teams.

Wondering therefore if the deal is that Potter is being compensated monthly.
 
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Mancgull said:
And that’s when we had a midfield of Caicedo, Bissouma, Mwepu and AliMac.
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The fantastic team he handed over to RDZ didn't include Bissouma - he'd been sold to Spurs - and Mwepu was often unavailable through injuries the previous season. The four of them playing together didn't happen very much!
 
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Weststander said:
Widely reported that Potter received £13m in severance pay, Chelsea let it be known that he didn’t receive the rest of the £60m contract pro rata.

In their accounts you don’t get to see a sum as a one off exceptional cost. Which is unusual eg in Manure and Spurs accounts you get to see the exact huge sums paid in dismissing management teams.

Wondering therefore if the deal is that Potter is being compensated monthly.
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Saw reports that he was indeed still being paid monthly by Chelsea. Supposedly the last payment was last month.
 


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BNthree said:
Saw reports that he was indeed still being paid monthly by Chelsea. Supposedly the last payment was last month.
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And taxed/NI’d at 47% on that.

But a multi millionaire several times over. In January they bought a luxury home for £1.75m in Sweden’s largest ski resort Åre.
 


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Weststander said:
Widely reported that Potter received £13m in severance pay, Chelsea let it be known that he didn’t receive the rest of the £60m contract pro rata.

In their accounts you don’t get to see a sum as a one off exceptional cost. Which is unusual eg in Manure and Spurs accounts you get to see the exact huge sums paid in dismissing management teams.

Wondering therefore if the deal is that Potter is being compensated monthly.
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Not sure I'd be in any hurry to work again with 13m in bank!
 






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GP has achieved everything he/you/we mere mortals could possibly hope for . . .

Minted, everything paid for, everything you ever wanted . . . investments ensuring income for life . . . . Why would he bother going through the mill again. He's not stupid, more to the point, he's not indelibly wedded to football, so can enjoy a normal life away from the millions of f***ing loons involved in an over blown kick about. . .
 


OzMike

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TFG will fade away, doesn't want to coach anymore, or need to and punditry like listening to paint dry, will end.
 


Lady Whistledown

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Less 47% taxes.

But now he won’t get out of bed for less than £10k an appearance. Brady/Sullivan will need to offer Moneybags a huge contract.
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When you earn that sort of money, your accountants tend to find ways of minimising that 47% liability, don't they?
 






Green Cross Code Man

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zefarelly said:
GP has achieved everything he/you/we mere mortals could possibly hope for . . .

Minted, everything paid for, everything you ever wanted . . . investments ensuring income for life . . . . Why would he bother going through the mill again. He's not stupid, more to the point, he's not indelibly wedded to football, so can enjoy a normal life away from the millions of f***ing loons involved in an over blown kick about. . .
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Another way of framing that is that if he has ambition and desire for personal satisfaction due to achieving goals in his career is that he will be left unsatisfied and empty. Unless of course all he cares about is money. He will be remembered by almost everyone as a failure if he doesn't take up the reins again and actually gain some success in management.
 


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