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[Politics] The Labour Government
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Bold Seagull
strong and stable with me, or...
- Jul 10, 2003
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Me and @Bozza have been having a heated discussion on this very thread, but that is just taking the piss
One is exactly what I would expect from someone with some serious issues, but the other ?
Very, Very, disappointed
One is exactly what I would expect from someone with some serious issues, but the other ?
Very, Very, disappointed
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Weststander
Well-known member
Me and @Bozza have been having a heated discussion on this very thread, but that is just taking the piss
One is exactly what I would expect, but the other ?
Very, Very, disappointed
I generally don’t like nsc’ers (unless it gets criminally extreme eg racism) disappearing. The breadth of views is one of the attractions.
But if it happens, it happens.
- Oct 20, 2022
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Agree with this.
I also think your suggestion of cheaper energy tariffs for the elderly is an excellent one - the funding of which could come out of the massive profits made by the oil and gas companies.
Astonished that some centre left/Labour friendly NSCers are still having to explain their position on WFP - surely everyone was on the same page with this weeks ago.
I did. Joined in the early-90s, let my membership lapse once Corbyn took over.
Abstained from voting or voted Green (never Tory)I’ll miss the budget as I’ll be en route to Brighton tomorrow but it will certainly be interesting to see if Reeves offsets the WFP with more help for all pensioners.
More fun will be ex-chancellor Jeremy Hunt having a conniption because the Office for Budget Responsibility publishes its findings tomorrow on the ‘black hole’ Labour inherited from the Tories on the same day as the Budget which gives him no right of reply.
- Oct 20, 2022
- 6,947
People on PIP are not eligible for Winter Fuel Allowance
At last. A reply from a grown upAgree with this.
I also think your suggestion of cheaper energy tariffs for the elderly is an excellent one - the funding of which could come out of the massive profits made by the oil and gas companies.
Astonished that some centre left/Labour friendly NSCers are still having to explain their position on WFP - surely everyone was on the same page with this weeks ago.
I did. Joined in the early-90s, let my membership lapse once Corbyn took over.
I’ll miss the budget as I’ll be en route to Brighton tomorrow but it will certainly be interesting to see if Reeves offsets the WFO with more help for all pensioners.
More fun will be ex-chancellor Jeremy Hunt having a conniption because the Office for Budget Responsibility publishes its findings tomorrow on the ‘black hole’ Labour inherited from the Tories on the same day as the Budget which gives him no right of reply.
Can’t have the oiks getting above themselves, can we? They should be paid three shillings a quarter and be thankful.
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,876
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Sorry they are all in Portslade
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,876
Oooh, I've never been to Portslade.
LamieRobertson
Not awoke
Don’t get too excited (just joking to anyone who lives there and takes offence)
Weststander
Well-known member
Don’t plan to make @Bozza’s world more stressful. He’s a good bloke who runs this for our benefit, it can’t be a money spinner. Can’t think of a better football forum, hence why fans of other clubs like it here. We’re here as guests.
Imho keep your gripe solely with @GB, if you must.
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Nor do we. Posters are very rarely banned and no one is suggesting banning cjd.
But you’re going to need to posses a backbone if you post how great the UK is from your house in La Rochelle.
Yep - we got out, thanks, and it took very little persuasion. The highlight was meeting Libby, a lovely 14-year-old spaniel who had been re-homed from Battersea Dogs' Home. My mum loves dogs and there were loads of friendly ones on the seafront this afternoon.Firstly, I hope you managed to persuade your mum to go out in the sun this afternoon
It was from one of your posts earlier that I discovered that the bus cap cost £300 million last year, I had no idea until you told posted it. And as you know nobody knows how it's being funded until tomorrow.
I haven't intimated you're a liar anywhere. The WFP we have agreed on many times. You posted that you thought Employers NI would be a problem for SMEs although you have said that you'll be happy to pay your own. We'll find out tomorrow but even with an increase in employers NI it is unlikely to go back up to what SMEs were paying until January this year.
I'm sorry if I specifically aimed my annoyance at you and claimed you had argued against all tax increases when you haven't. This thread has recently turned into a constant stream of posters giving reasons why every single measure that is being proposed shouldn't be implemented and I obviously thought you had contributed some of this which you hadn't.
There is very little, if any recognition of the state the country is in and what is required. It's as @Guinness Boy said above "it's mostly a thread full of people who don't want to pay for public services".
Even you said
But I'm assuming there was an element of tongue-in-cheek.
The last few days have been better. Sometimes you are so desperate for something positive, you are in danger of seeing something that isn't really there, but I do think the newest drug, Memantine, is having a positive effect. Fingers crossed, anyway.
Back on topic...
To the best of my knowledge - which basically comes from 5Live and the BBC website - there have been very few leaks on what to expect tomorrow beyond the likely Employers' NI uplift. So, even if I wanted to talk down changes, and I don't, I wouldn't have much to work with.
As I posted last night, after your persistent prodding, I went away to find out just where the Treasury's income does come from. I'm not sure what I'd have guessed at, but I don't think I'd have been close to the actual split. The trio of income tax, NI and VAT is substantial, and I now have a better understanding of the talk of the straightjacket Reeves finds herself in after pledging to leave them all at current levels.
A lot of stuff needs to be paid for and money needs to be raised. Not many people are going to stick their hand up to volunteer to pay more tax, but the money has to come from somewhere. We're fortunate that, right now at least, we can give a little more and expect to do so.
As long as what is asked of us feels fair when squared up against the raft of changes likely to be announced, I won't be complaining.
clapham_gull
Legacy Fan
- Aug 20, 2003
- 25,876
Is that in Portslade ?
I don't know Brighton very well, I grew up in a nice part of Sussex.
Weststander
Well-known member
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We’ve both got a harbour.