Greg Bobkin
Silver Seagull
- May 22, 2012
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If those clips and this one don't make you shudder inside - even our Trump cultists on here - then I worry for you. These are vile vile people.
The guy is so full of shit.
If those clips and this one don't make you shudder inside - even our Trump cultists on here - then I worry for you. These are vile vile people.
Where "getting harder" is a phrase meaning "impossible".Its getting harder to deny he is a fascist.
You would think wouldn’t you?This weekends rally and it's anti-Puerto Rico (and by default Latino) racism will prove counter productive in a demographic where ironically Trump had been making progress.
Nothing will dissuade hardcore Trump supporters but I think we make the mistake that his entire support is the MAGA base. Trump cannot win with the base alone, it's not big enough. He needs regular not batshit crazy republican votes and people who do not regularly vote Democrat. It's true that Trump has made significant in roads into Latino support which makes his rhetoric even more bizarre.You would think wouldn’t you?
But millions of women still support Trump despite the Access to Hollywood tapes etc. Heck, if a Jewish person is so taken in by Trump's electioneering that she would dismiss his disgusting admiration for Hitler as ‘fake news’ despite it being widely reported then I’m not going to hope anything that comes out of his mouth will significantly influence voters to swing away from Trump.
Yes it can go either way but the implications of it going to Trump are just huge.
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This is an interesting article on the Puerto Rican vote in Penn - personally I think it is issues like housing and the economy as well as abortion that will influence their vote rather than Trump being rude about Puerto Rico tbh but it’s too close and complex to decipher who Peurto Ricans will vote as a block
The Rising Influence of Puerto Rican Voters in Pennsylvania’s Political Battleground
Among Pennsylvania’s nearly half a million Puerto Ricans, a key voting bloc in the upcoming presidential election, some have switched parties, others remain undecided, and many remain disengaged from the political process.periodismoinvestigativo.com
When you it from likes of John Kelly, you know its true. Sad so many think its OK to look the other wayIts getting harder to deny he is a fascist.
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Not all Americans are fools, trust those people
Crawl away and die?
A "growing fear among Democratic residents" is a fact?I certainly don’t think all Americans are fools - um half my family are American on my late father’s side but you are underestimating the disenchantment many moderate Americans have with Biden/Harris Administration if you think Trump does not have a very good chance of winning this. And that there is the concern.
As for trusting people, I trust what my American relatives that are directly involved in working for the Democratic Party in Michigan are saying to me privately more than English people commenting on an internet forum ( that includes me!) -
I will say it again, because your long post presents itself as a contradiction to my earlier comments, there is a really feeling of growing fear among Democratic residents in Michigan that Trump will win in Michigan and Pennsylvania and without both those States, Harris’s road to 270 electoral votes is essentially blocked or at least very unrealistic .
Sorry f that is not what you or others here want to hear but those are the facts.
If you really want to know why I am on Trumps side this 1 minute video nails it on the head, by a lefty Chris Cuomo.
I believe you re Michigan because of Gaza the dems have alienated a significant part of the electorate. I think you may have misread the tone of post, I was not accusing you of think all Americans were fools. I think we both share concerns that Trump may win the election.I certainly don’t think all Americans are fools - um half my family are American on my late father’s side but you are underestimating the disenchantment many moderate Americans have with Biden/Harris Administration if you think Trump does not have a very good chance of winning this. And that there is the concern.
As for trusting people, I trust what my American relatives that are directly involved in working for the Democratic Party in Michigan are saying to me privately more than English people commenting on an internet forum ( that includes me!) -
I will say it again, because your long post presents itself as a contradiction to my earlier comments, there is a really feeling of growing fear among Democratic residents in Michigan that Trump will win in Michigan and Pennsylvania and without both those States, Harris’s road to 270 electoral votes is essentially blocked or at least very unrealistic .
Sorry f that is not what you or others here want to hear but those are the facts.
Yes of course.A "growing fear among Democratic residents" is a fact?
That sounds like an alternative fact to me. My bedsheets are dry.
Also there is a significant Jewish population in Michigan who knows Trump will be more pro-Israel in the current conflict than Harris. Pro- Palestinian voters are unlikely to vote for Trump but they could stay at home or spoil their ballots which could be as damaging.I believe you re Michigan because of Gaza the dems have alienated a significant part of the electorate.
We are on the same page really - it is much too close and nuanced to call - my gut reaction is that Harris will win the national vote by a decent margin but the electoral college in the swing states is a toss up.I do not discount Trump's chances of winning, it's very close, I do however take issue with the prevailing narrative that he does have it in the bag and that the Dems have blown it.
If you really want to know why I am on Trumps side this 1 minute video nails it on the head, by a lefty Chris Cuomo.
If you really want to know why I am on Trumps side this 1 minute video nails it on the head, by a lefty Chris Cuomo.
If you really want to know why I am on Trumps side this 1 minute video nails it on the head, by a lefty Chris Cuomo.
You can come back and tell me I was wrong, if it happens, but I think Trump will win, and win by a quite a margin.I am very excited for this thread when Kamala Harris is declared the winner in the Electoral College and becomes the president-elect of the United States.
I dont think this uber confidence or paying for BS skewed polls to is just to cause apathy or dissuade dems from voting, I personally believe that its all part of a planned "Stop the steal 2" attempted coup if Harris wins.I think this is the case. It really depends who you are asking when getting a feel for how this election will go. MAGA convinced they are going to walk it, angry left wingers doubling down on disillusion with Harris but in other quarters you can hear tales of first time voters, old-fashioned republicans and a motivated female vote coming out for Harris.
Based on nothing but gut instinct I think Harris will win. Trump has his MAGA base but he is doing nothing to win over independents and old school republican voters. I also feel the new generation voters who were not eligible last time round have been heavily discounted. I also feel that women have been ignored by the GOP at their peril. This weekends rally and it's anti-Puerto Rico (and by default Latino) racism will prove counter productive in a demographic where ironically Trump had been making progress.
The doom and gloom has kept the Democratic machine fighting for every vote and I believe the work is being putting into maximise getting the vote out. On balance I think Harris wins but I will remain nervous until the result is finally declared.
I'm not sure who will win, but I think when it comes to the final result I don't think it will be close.You can come back and tell me I was wrong, if it happens, but I think Trump will win, and win by a quite a margin.
Of course you may be right, but I dont think you will be.You can come back and tell me I was wrong, if it happens, but I think Trump will win, and win by a quite a margin.