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[Politics] Inheritance Tax



fly high

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
1,649
in a house
Threshold is £325k. If you leave family home to children then it can go up to £500k (£1m for a couple).

If one partner died 30 years ago and left everything to the spouse and now the spouse has died, I believe the effective threshold, ignoring the family home is £650k (the threshold for the partner that died first is the one applicable now, not the one at the time of death). If you include the family home going to children then it is £1m. Hence the reason so many are not actually affected by IHT yet still get agitated by it.
But how do we know if they really want to grab more IHT they won't reduce the tax free part so dragging many more into paying it.
 




BrightonCottager

Well-known member
Sep 30, 2013
2,655
Brighton
I do beg your pardon. I misinterpreted the HMRC rules about the Residential Nil Rate Band being passed onto beneficiaries. It only applies to direct descendants. Quote from the website below:

'If you give away your home to your children (including adopted, foster or stepchildren) or grandchildren your threshold can increase to £500,000.'
 






Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
13,838
Cumbria
Once again Labour not getting the hang of briefing in a policy, I suppose that stems from spending 4 years in opposition doing nothing beyond slating Tories.

It shouldn't be difficult to get across that this isn't going to impact your average working class family.
Some things can be said over and over - but if folk don't want to listen or take it in, it's an uphill struggle to get it across.

And anyway - no-one knows yet what the changes will be, so Labour can't get anything across really.
 




Herr Tubthumper

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NSC Patron
Jul 11, 2003
62,287
The Fatherland
Once again Labour not getting the hang of briefing in a policy, I suppose that stems from spending 4 years in opposition doing nothing beyond slating Tories.

It shouldn't be difficult to get across that this isn't going to impact your average working class family.
They have repeatedly said this isn’t going to affect the average working person. Whether you choose to listen is a different matter.
 


nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,366
Gods country fortnightly
They have repeatedly said this isn’t going to affect the average working person. Whether you choose to listen is a different matter.
There will be plenty of bed wetting even though 9 out of 10 people won’t be effected
 






Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,266
Living In a Box
They have repeatedly said this isn’t going to affect the average working person. Whether you choose to listen is a different matter.
Indeed they have, just as they said they were pro-pensioners prior to shafting them big-time over winter fuel allowance
 


Bodian

Well-known member
May 3, 2012
13,838
Cumbria
They don't control the red tops so need to find others ways to get their message out their that isn't buried in your average Guardian opinion column. Out of touch, imho.
How do you suggest though? As you say - they can't control the news in 90% of the papers, the BBC are fairly impartial - so that doesn't leave them much. Social Media - but that's got a mixed reach. What's your suggestion?
 


Terry Butcher Tribute Act

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Aug 18, 2013
3,602
How do you suggest though? As you say - they can't control the news in 90% of the papers, the BBC are fairly impartial - so that doesn't leave them much. Social Media - but that's got a mixed reach. What's your suggestion?
BBC might be impartial but doesn't mean you can't use it to explain details of a policy. Or for that matted, GMB, Sky News, Youtube, Twitter, Tik Tok, Facebook.

At the moment they are just gifting Tories open goals.
 






Is it PotG?

Thrifty non-licker
Feb 20, 2017
25,167
Sussex by the Sea
This “lazy tax grab” will drag average families into paying the levy while the ultra-rich manipulate loopholes to avoid it.

The increased income to the Govt will be negligible and hopefully alienate many of the tactical voters who voted yellow last time.
 


Machiavelli

Well-known member
Oct 11, 2013
17,650
Fiveways
They don't control the red tops so need to find others ways to get their message out their that isn't buried in your average Guardian opinion column. Out of touch, imho.
I agree with you. There is an in-built structural bias towards the Tories and against all other parties in our media. It's a shame that so many others struggle to understand this.
 




severnside gull

Well-known member
May 16, 2007
24,796
By the seaside in West Somerset
Once again Labour not getting the hang of briefing in a policy, I suppose that stems from spending 4 years in opposition doing nothing beyond slating Tories.

It shouldn't be difficult to get across that this isn't going to impact your average working class family.
What utter tosh. Labour can “brief” all it wants (although notably and admirably it shows little sign of doing so) it’s the MSM that spread disinformation regardless
 


drew

Drew
Oct 3, 2006
23,486
Burgess Hill
This “lazy tax grab” will drag average families into paying the levy while the ultra-rich manipulate loopholes to avoid it.

The increased income to the Govt will be negligible and hopefully alienate many of the tactical voters who voted yellow last time.
4% of estates are currently subject to IHT. Exactly how much of a shift in the thresholds are you anticipating for it to actually affect the 'average' household?
 




nicko31

Well-known member
Jan 7, 2010
18,366
Gods country fortnightly
Here's some helpful and accurate information for those interested in what IHT is collected on currently, how much it raises, how much it is projected to raise on current trajectories, and the potential changes to it:

Def. do something about no IHT on pension pots. This hasn't even been taxed in the first place, farcical....
 




Shropshire Seagull

Well-known member
Nov 5, 2004
8,733
Telford
Def. do something about no IHT on pension pots. This hasn't even been taxed in the first place, farcical....
But pension pots have always been encouraged by governments to help relieve dependency on the state pension.

How else can pension incentives be made if the tax carrot is removed?

Would be short-termism of the highest order.

Keynesium economic theory discourages savings as this takes money out of the economy and pension pots are a form of long term savings.
 


fly high

Well-known member
Aug 25, 2011
1,649
in a house
Def. do something about no IHT on pension pots. This hasn't even been taxed in the first place, farcical....
I was amazed when Mum was paid my brother's pension each month, tax free. Pot is peanuts as was his estate & will take nearly 2 years before it pays off his funeral costs & we didn't spend a fortune, no cars, simple cremation etc. Guess the pot wouldn't come into the category to be taxed anyway but thought the monthly payments would be taxed.
 


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